WE MADE TARGET WHP!!!! (almost...)

[CRallo]

target meaning "process" I assume?

nice dude!

looks like my stocker ain't gonna cut it anymore... I've got that HP and 350 extra lbs! and my stump puller can't rev!



and yea... I thought this was funny too!

114 for torque??? My refrigerator has more torque than that!!!





he he he............




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[Ed Funk]

Who needs torque when Honduhs will rev to 9000

[mossaidis]

LOL! rev limit is at 7800 and I will shifting at 7400. peak torque is at 5100 rpm. We should be able to raise the torque numbers given that we have the s300 which provides tuning in relation to throttle postion (or so I understand). So, I will keep my fingers crossed on mid-range power... after a few weekends.

(Stupid electric motor f7%Ken joke, rat-rabid carriage-return-making-in-his-posts ITA-leaving-bastard ex-saturn-driving Jeff!!!).... So Mr Lawton, at least you can't say that your wheel nuts have more torque than my motor. at least I have more chp than your saturn... LOL!

It's a d-series motor which is a work-horse which has more torque in relation to higher revving B's. Besides getting a solid built motor, having the 4.9 FD gave us a 15% boost across the entire rpm range. Still it's a Hunda.

Chris! Ask me how many times I was chasing Max Lingenfeld's rear bumper on the straight-away at LRP???? HINT: "MANY" And once Max put that FD in, he walked away from me every lap. Your 240sx has lots of potential! And given that its ITA, we have lots cars in different stages of being built - plenty of competition at each layer of the pack!

Matt is surgical yet the biggest surprise to this entire build was my injectors... I sent them to marren to get checked, cleaned and balanced. My mouth dropped when I got the results back... two injectors were bad, but not bad enough for me to take notice. Kevin Ruck ran into similar issues before ARRC in his DX. So send in your injectors to get checked out!!!! I am NOT a company spokeperson.

[Jeremy Billiel]

40% engine multiplier coming soon! LOL

[mossaidis]

40% engine multiplier coming soon! LOL

That's not funny... Don't give the masses any ideas.

[Jeremy Billiel]

That's not funny... Don't give the masses any ideas.

If you were a fair, thoughtful, well respected IT driver you would also submit your engine specs and dyno sheets to the ITAC so that all cars can be equal.

You should get no benefit of doing good work and beating the ITAC derived multiplier.

[mossaidis]

LOL! I have not exceeded the ITAC derived multipler... I have simply met it with a proper built and lots of matched bolt-ons. I can post my build sheets and dyno output to ITAC w/o hestiation. So are you posting yours as well?

EDIT: Oh yeah, you have no rat in this race... LOL! So can everyone else post their build sheets right? Shane? Andy? Funk? Jim? Tim? ...teehee

[tom91ita]

40% engine multiplier coming soon! LOL

as i recall, the assumed mulitplier for the ITA honda is already over 40%.

that is, if you take the weight and work backwards, you end up in the 42-44% range, iirc.

[mossaidis]

as i recall, the assumed mulitplier for the ITA honda is already over 40%.

that is, if you take the weight and work backwards, you end up in the 42-44% range, iirc.

I believe 38% for the CRX si D16a6 engine. For the D16z6 (and probably the other VTEC D16's unless in IT it's 25% and for good reason... I have a 10/10th build and I am more or less there, within +/- 1 whp depending on the day, the dyno settings, etc.

Here's the math.

2270 lbs (process weight) - 50 lbs DW adder = 2220 lbs
2220 lbs / 0.98 FWD subractor = 2265 lbs (if unadjusted)
2265 lbs / 14.5 lb/chp ratio = 156.2 chp
156.2chp * 0.85 standard driveline ratio loss = 132.7 process whp

OR

156.2 chp - 125 stock chp = 31.2 chp upgrade via IT allowed mods
31.2 chp / 125 stock chp = 24.96% or ~ 25%

[tom91ita]

I believe 38% for the CRX si D16a6 engine. For the D16z6 (and probably the other VTEC D16's unless in IT it's 25% and for good reason... I have a 10/10th build and I am more or less there, within +/- 1 whp depending on the day, the dyno settings, etc.

Here's the math.

2270 lbs (process weight) - 50 lbs DW adder = 2220 lbs
2220 lbs / 0.98 FWD subractor = 2265 lbs (if unadjusted)
2265 lbs / 14.5 lb/chp ratio = 156.2 chp
156.2chp * 0.85 standard driveline ratio loss = 132.7 process whp

OR

156.2 chp - 125 stock chp = 31.2 chp upgrade via IT allowed mods
31.2 chp / 125 stock chp = 24.96% or ~ 25%

i'll accept your math above that is saying 156.2 Crank HP. but since the 90-91's were rated at 108 hp, then 156.2/108 = 1.446

so call it a 45% multiplier.

nice hp numbers btw. and thanks for sharing.

[Z3_GoCar]

Shout out to Matt Kessler from Kessler Engineering (http://www.kesslerengineering.com/Dyno/Dyno.htm) and Mark from Applied Flow for all their smarts, help and work in getting "the little red civic" more powerful than ever!

Taget whp for the civic: 132.8 whp

We recorded 132.5 whp & 114 wtq, noon June 9, 2011!

Sweet Jezus!

You do realize that's like 152 whp on a dynojet...

40% engine multiplier coming soon! LOL

Sounds like it's going to be a 50% adder, or a reclass to ITS

[mossaidis]

You do realize that's like 152 whp on a dynojet...

Sounds like it's going to be a 50% adder, or a reclass to ITS

Really good numbers, and on a Dynapack unit too.

No more from you, "Z3_GoCar"... BANNED! j/k

dynojets read 10% above packs and 10% above SAE reality - true? no idea.

[Z3_GoCar]

No more from you, "Z3_GoCar"... BANNED! j/k

dynojets read 10% above packs and 10% above SAE reality - true? no idea.

Get the smilie too

There's a couple of threads in the tech section, the jet's generally 13% greater than a pack's reading. What does it mean? Don't know, and I've been thinking about it all morning. As far as tuning goes, the pack is the way to go and that's why I continue to use my dyno shop.

[CRallo]

Damn dude! Excited about your car much?! Yo
U are all over this thread!!! Its good to see man! I'm glad that you are psyched!

Chris! Ask me how many times I was chasing Max Lingenfeld's rear bumper on the straight-away at LRP???? HINT: "MANY" And once Max put that FD in, he walked away from me every lap. Your 240sx has lots of potential! And given that its ITA, we have lots cars in different stages of being built - plenty of competition at each layer of the pack!

How many?

well his engine wasn't stock... Nissan built mine 22 years ago and someone gave it to me for free! That said, comparing my DL1 files to Andy's and Jeff's, it doesn't hold me back at LRP too much... My biggest issue is the slower corners, but Jeff already told me I'm going too fast on the back half of the track, even though I'm still taking it easy LOL BUT I've only driven my car at LRP in one session with good(but still not new) tires, so it will come... Work is conflicting with the June race and maybe the July race, but look for us at the NARRCoffs!

[mossaidis]

Damn dude! Excited about your car much?! Yo
U are all over this thread!!! Its good to see man! I'm glad that you are psyched!

maybe a little...

How many?

I SAID MANY DAMNIT!!! now stop reminding me... j/k (i crack myself up)

Work is conflicting with the June race and maybe the July race, but look for us at the NARRCoffs!

No wgi? no njmp? pooh...

[CRallo]

That's okay, you're allowed!



Maybe and maybe (mostly depends on $$)... But WGI is very much about power and I don't know T-Bolt very well yet(and my teammate has never driven it)

Oh and If YOU could get those numbers, they should proly through a lil extra weight at it just to be safe!

maybe a little...



I SAID MANY DAMNIT!!! now stop reminding me... j/k (i crack myself up)



No wgi? no njmp? pooh...

[mossaidis]

Oh and If YOU could get those numbers, they should proly through a lil extra weight at it just to be safe!

the car weighs 2308 with 5/8 tank of gas and a 200lbs driver w/ gear. So, it's 38 lbs overweight. When I asked Matt if there's anything we can do to lose weight, he said: "you, you're a fat ass". He's right again.