Come on Dave, it is winter and we don't have any real interesting topics to bitch about right now. Put a log on the fire and let the insults rip!! Prod drivers suck---OOOPS, I have a prod car too.
Come on Dave, it is winter and we don't have any real interesting topics to bitch about right now. Put a log on the fire and let the insults rip!! Prod drivers suck---OOOPS, I have a prod car too.
Steve Eckerich
ITS 18 Speedsource RX7
ITR RX8 (under construction)
Regional Prod guys in the SEDiv --- good folks.
NC Region
1980 ITS Triumph TR8
If anyone thinks folks here are contentious, you should see them on the prod forums. My best example was once when I asked a very specific question related to how the prod suspension rules applied to strut suspensions. When I got back to it after the weekend, I found I have 56 responses, so I figured I'd have my answer. Instead what got were several snotty replies telling me to read the GCR or PCS (as if I could have even asked the question without doing so - and I cited the section!), a couple sneering at my lack of understanding and experience (only 30 years racing, after all), and about 50 arguing and bitching about some unrelated topic. I got three responses that actually tried to address my question.
Made me question whether I wanted to race with such a crew. I subsequently did try it and they weren't that bad (but then I never really threatened to beat them, so maybe that's what saved me .)
Tom Lyttle
Decatur, GA
IT7 Mazda - 2006, 2008 SARRC Champion
ITS Nissan 200SX - finally running correctly
FP Ford Capri - waiting for a comp adjustment
GT3 Dodge Daytona - what was I thinking?
If anyone thinks folks here are contentious, you should see them on the prod forums. My best example was once when I asked a very specific question related to how the prod suspension rules applied to strut suspensions. When I got back to it after the weekend, I found I have 56 responses, so I figured I'd have my answer. Instead what got were several snotty replies telling me to read the GCR or PCS (as if I could have even asked the question without doing so - and I cited the section!), a couple sneering at my lack of understanding and experience (only 30 years racing, after all), and about 50 arguing and bitching about some unrelated topic. I got three responses that actually tried to address my question.
Made me question whether I wanted to race with such a crew. I subsequently did try it and they weren't that bad (but then I never really threatened to beat them, so maybe that's what saved me .)
Tom Lyttle
Decatur, GA
IT7 Mazda - 2006, 2008 SARRC Champion
ITS Nissan 200SX - finally running correctly
FP Ford Capri - waiting for a comp adjustment
GT3 Dodge Daytona - what was I thinking?
Yeah, but I have to humbly admit it's no worse than some of the discussions we've had about the SM drivers.
It's plain and simple. No one likes running with other groups.
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Jeff L
ITA Miata
2010 NARRC Champion
2007 NERRC Championship, 2nd place
2008 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
2009 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
What, us complain about Miatas?
I did get a chuckle out of this!! LOLSorry for the Matt Weisburg-like posts, everybody.
Dave Gran
Real Roads, Real Car Guys – Real World Road Tests
Go Ahead - Take the Wheel's Free Guide to Racing
It's not about cars, its about drivers. When another driver messes up our race, we get mad. Human nature.
To be honest I really don't have a problem with other groups, but then again I have never run with a bunch of SM's either. It was REAL interesting during a test day at Road Atlanta last year with me in the IT7 and the guys running the Trans Am series running together. I found out they were not that much faster in the turns, but once they reached a straight, fugetaboutit.
One thing about that thread is I now know where Matt Weisberg went.
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Tom Sprecher
Well that explains why my vid has had so many hits over the past three days. I guess using the "but I had no rear brake material left" excuse isn't going to cut it....
Gregg Ginsberg
'96 Civic EX -- MARRS ITA #72
WDCR-SCCA Rookie of the Year 2003
MARRS ITA/T3 Drivers rep
Not to resurrect this thread or start up any fights, but wow, I never knew that Prod racers were afraid of us hard-chargin' knuckle-draggin' backy-spewin' girl-chasin' beer swillin' IT drivers. Now I know why there's been this divide in the paddock between IT and Prod.
Guess that means if I ever race against Prod cars, I know to psychologically intimidate them in the corners! (Just joking!) Oh wait, they'll already be on their guard when they see me coming....
Chris
#91 ITR Mustang
1st place-2008 Great Lakes Division Championship Series
1st place-2009 Kryderacing Series
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