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    Come on Dave, it is winter and we don't have any real interesting topics to bitch about right now. Put a log on the fire and let the insults rip!! Prod drivers suck---OOOPS, I have a prod car too.
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    Regional Prod guys in the SEDiv --- good folks.
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    If anyone thinks folks here are contentious, you should see them on the prod forums. My best example was once when I asked a very specific question related to how the prod suspension rules applied to strut suspensions. When I got back to it after the weekend, I found I have 56 responses, so I figured I'd have my answer. Instead what got were several snotty replies telling me to read the GCR or PCS (as if I could have even asked the question without doing so - and I cited the section!), a couple sneering at my lack of understanding and experience (only 30 years racing, after all), and about 50 arguing and bitching about some unrelated topic. I got three responses that actually tried to address my question.

    Made me question whether I wanted to race with such a crew. I subsequently did try it and they weren't that bad (but then I never really threatened to beat them, so maybe that's what saved me .)
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    If anyone thinks folks here are contentious, you should see them on the prod forums. My best example was once when I asked a very specific question related to how the prod suspension rules applied to strut suspensions. When I got back to it after the weekend, I found I have 56 responses, so I figured I'd have my answer. Instead what got were several snotty replies telling me to read the GCR or PCS (as if I could have even asked the question without doing so - and I cited the section!), a couple sneering at my lack of understanding and experience (only 30 years racing, after all), and about 50 arguing and bitching about some unrelated topic. I got three responses that actually tried to address my question.

    Made me question whether I wanted to race with such a crew. I subsequently did try it and they weren't that bad (but then I never really threatened to beat them, so maybe that's what saved me .)
    Tom Lyttle
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    ITS Nissan 200SX - finally running correctly
    FP Ford Capri - waiting for a comp adjustment
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    Quote Originally Posted by seckerich View Post
    Come on Dave, it is winter and we don't have any real interesting topics to bitch about right now. Put a log on the fire and let the insults rip!! Prod drivers suck---OOOPS, I have a prod car too.

    Steve
    Thanks for knocking me back into reality.
    What the hell was I thinking.

    Somebody please flame away.

    cheers
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    Yeah, but I have to humbly admit it's no worse than some of the discussions we've had about the SM drivers.

    It's plain and simple. No one likes running with other groups.




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    What, us complain about Miatas?

    I did get a chuckle out of this!! LOL
    Sorry for the Matt Weisburg-like posts, everybody.
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    It's not about cars, its about drivers. When another driver messes up our race, we get mad. Human nature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    It's plain and simple. No one likes running with other groups.
    To be honest I really don't have a problem with other groups, but then again I have never run with a bunch of SM's either. It was REAL interesting during a test day at Road Atlanta last year with me in the IT7 and the guys running the Trans Am series running together. I found out they were not that much faster in the turns, but once they reached a straight, fugetaboutit.

    One thing about that thread is I now know where Matt Weisberg went.
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    Well that explains why my vid has had so many hits over the past three days. I guess using the "but I had no rear brake material left" excuse isn't going to cut it....
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    Not to resurrect this thread or start up any fights, but wow, I never knew that Prod racers were afraid of us hard-chargin' knuckle-draggin' backy-spewin' girl-chasin' beer swillin' IT drivers. Now I know why there's been this divide in the paddock between IT and Prod.

    Guess that means if I ever race against Prod cars, I know to psychologically intimidate them in the corners! (Just joking!) Oh wait, they'll already be on their guard when they see me coming....
    Chris
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    ...I never knew that Prod racers were afraid of us hard-chargin' girl-chasin' beer swillin' IT drivers. <snip>
    Guilty as charged!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedMisted View Post
    Not to resurrect this thread or start up any fights, but wow, I never knew that Prod racers were afraid of us hard-chargin' knuckle-draggin' backy-spewin' girl-chasin' beer swillin' IT drivers. Now I know why there's been this divide in the paddock between IT and Prod.

    Guess that means if I ever race against Prod cars, I know to psychologically intimidate them in the corners! (Just joking!) Oh wait, they'll already be on their guard when they see me coming....
    Girl chasin'? Girl chasin'?
    Dude, speak for yourself.
    Blech.
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