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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    Rob,

    Plenty of suggestions have been put into play over the past couple years. Just because all of them haven't gone your way doesn't mean you should take your ball and go home. Let's all work hard to make this the best series it can be.

    Who's taking their ball and going home??? I've supported the NARRC series more than anyone I know. I've only missed 3 NARRC races in 3 seasons. Thats an attendance of 34 out of the last 37 NARRC races. My support is unprecedented. I think that's an unfair statement. If all of the drivers in our region participated with with my numbers we'd have few problems.

    The point's I have made are my own as well as others. If the series wants to improve it needs to listen to its drivers. Why do you think PRO-IT is working so well? Because Bob and Darryl ask questions and listen to answers; and the driver's KNOW it's THE DRIVER'S series. The NARRC feels like the regions' series.

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    Rob Breault
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    2008 NARRC DP Champion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Bro View Post
    My support is unprecedented.
    ???? Really?
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    For the record, I only have one e-mail. If you want me to compile your thoughts. Send it in!
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed325its View Post
    ???? Really?

    How many others can make that claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Bro View Post
    How many others can make that claim?

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    In the 20+ years I have been around NARRC I would suggest quite a few.
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    The NARRC website (www.NARRC.com) has the points from 2001 to the present.
    This has how many weekends. how many rounds, how many doubles, and who drove what how many times.

    Please send Andy your observations, comments and suggestions.
    Thanks,
    Darrell Anthony

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    Could the Regions stand on their own without any series ?????? dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpc View Post
    Could the Regions stand on their own without any series ?????? dave
    yes NER could
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed325its View Post
    In the 20+ years I have been around NARRC I would suggest quite a few.
    In the face of a significant recession? That's why we are where we are. And it's great that there are drivers who've and who do participate with high event counts, but where are they all now? And what will it take to get them back. Isn't that the crux of this thread?


    And to Daves point. That's exactly what the regions are using the NARRC designation for. Because they wouldn't be solvent without the car counts or they would lose significant revenue on a per event basis. This weekend past Brian M jokingly stated that this was the last NARRC season, and while it was obvious he was joking, it does suggest a bit of truth at least among some of the IT crowd. This personally will be my last NARRC season, I feel that there are more tracks to see and more experiences to be had than the NARRC is currently offering.

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    Rob Breault
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    2008 NARRC DP Champion
    2009 NARRC ITR Champion
    2009 Team DI Pro-ITR Champion

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    Andy,

    I hope to have an e-mail with a complete revamp idea to energize and transform the series. Basically in short I would love to follow a national style format with points similar to the national divisions to qualify you for our own NARRC Runnoffs similar to the national runnoffs only for the Norh Atlantic Regional Racing series. Bring back the NARRC Runnoffs in full force and make it what it was back in the late 80's. We have grown so far away from that and made it a year long championship series that most championships are decided long before the end. Almost every profesional sports Series (Basketball, Football, Baseball, Soccer, Olympics, Nascar, even SCCA National Series) uses a format that allows you to spend the "regular Season" to prove your stuff to qualify for the big show at the end... then you have to bring your A-game to the big event and show everyone you are the top guy/gal! Nascar and SCCA National Racing are the only 2 autoracing series that I can think if that do this and I think they are on the right track for keeping interest and excitement all the way to the very end.

    I'll get something to you shortly... when do you need the feedback by?
    Stephen

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    I like the total revamp idea - but remember one think in your sports analogy...most of your Pro Sports analogies have a playoff system and not a 'one and done' except football.

    I think the double points at the Runoffs bridges the two concepts. It weights the RO's heavily but you don't NEED to win it to be the champ.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Bro View Post
    In the face of a significant recession?
    That is not the definition of unprecedented. You can't qualify your statement after the fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed325its View Post
    That is not the definition of unprecedented. You can't qualify your statement after the fact.

    OK Ed you win. I sincerely and humbly apologize for describing my level of participation unprecedented.....I hope that makes you happy.

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    Rob Breault
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    2008 Driving Impressions Pro-ITA Champion
    2008 NARRC DP Champion
    2009 NARRC ITR Champion
    2009 Team DI Pro-ITR Champion

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