Enduro length question?

[lawtonglenn]

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One "B-U" (bladder unit).

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[callard]

Grand AM ST and GT classes (sedan cars similar to IT - not prototypes) run two to three hour sprint races as the norm. No mandatory time for pit stops but usually with two drivers. They also run a 6-hour Enduro at the end of the season at VIR for those cars. Just sayin....
Chuck

[Cobrar05]

Grand AM ST and GT classes (sedan cars similar to IT - not prototypes) run two to three hour sprint races as the norm. No mandatory time for pit stops but usually with two drivers. They also run a 6-hour Enduro at the end of the season at VIR for those cars. Just sayin....
Chuck

Actually, they require a driver change. That means they require a pitstop. Of course none of the cars could run 2.5 hours on a single tank of fuel anyway. The cars fuel load is regulated so that no team/car has an advantage.

The 6 hour race was reduced to 4 hours this season as well, because of increasing expenses and falling car count.

So, some of this applies and some doesn't.

[Knestis]

>> I am tired of the "Its not an enduro" line. The next step up from sprint race is enduro.

No fair arguing against drawing a semantic line in the sand by drawing your OWN semantic line in the sand, Rob. The original question asked for what those dictionaries call an "opinion."

How about a little more leeway in terminology? There's a whole 'nother genre that's somewhere between "sprint" and "enduro" - in my OPINION - that includes ECRs, 3- or 4-hour races, and anything that mandates pit stops. Some think of them as "enduros," others don't.

Sprint - Go as fast as you can for a short period of time; rewards intensity and the ability to get 10/10ths out of car and driver over the short run; requires optimization of the car for the purpose - outright speed.

Enduro - Go as far as you can over a long period of time, as fast as you can; rewards preparation, teamwork, organization, and patience; requires optimization of the car for the purpose - to run a long time without stopping.

"Extended Sprint" or "Mini-Enduro" - Go as fast as you can over a time longer than a sprint race; rewards some compromise between what is required for a sprint or enduro; requires no specific optimization beyond that required for sprint races due to specific mandates in the rules.

It's that last bit that is crucial to the definition. It would piss off the ECR/3-hour crowd if the rules let me show up and run one stint with my distance-optimized car. It pisses me off because mandatory stop rules handicap me for choosing to specialize my hardware. What if I asked that the supps demand cars tweaked harder than mine (solid bushings throughout, right at the minimum weight, etc.) to start 20-minute sprint races with a 1 lap deficit, to make the situation equitable...?

Mandatorty stops are racing socialism.

Look - at NO point did I say, "Hey, regions wanting to make money - don't run any 3-hour or 90-minute races, dammit...!" I just said, "In my opinion, when they DO that, the races don't qualify for 'enduro' status."

K

EDIT - Sadly, I heard that NCR didn't get to its minimum entries to break even on the event. (I think Jeff Y. told me it was 60...?) Consider though for a minute that the economies, though just as real, are different for something like the 13-hour. Remember that the entry fee was $825.

[Cobrar05]

Actually, the OP was asking what is the minimum lenth for an enduro. Not the optimum lenth.

Which is why I said 90 minutes. 3 hours would be my favorite and the most often scheduled distance. Then I saw one "its not an enduro" after another.

The q was what is the minimum distance.

If we killed the under 6 hour enduros because, well, they aren't enduros. How many enduros would we have left?

As you say even the VIR 13 hours is struggling to survive.

I'd love to see a 5 or 8 race 3 hour enduro series. I think that would be a blast. But, i guess its not an enduro.

As for me...I am really looking forward to the ARRC 3 hour not an Enduro. I want that checkered flag for my trophy case. Enduro or not.

[Knestis]

..As for me...I am really looking forward to the ARRC 3 hour not an Enduro. I want that checkered flag for my trophy case. Enduro or not.

You and me both...!

See you there,

K

[callard]

What is this "Trophy Case" of which you speak?????

[JohnRW]

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[tdw6974]

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