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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    The intent is that you can take any pairs of gears and mix-n-match into whatever box they'll fit into, assuming no mods to make it fit. so you can take the first gear from the CRX and the second from the ITR, and the third from the Integra, ad nauseum....we talked about the verbiage and decided that "sets" made more sense than "pairs"; if you can think of a better way to word it, please suggest...

    Key philosophical basis: bolt in and it's OK. Gotta start machining parts/shafts/case to make it fit? No bueno.

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    Cool. The current wording makes more sense understanding that the word "complete" was removed intentially.

    I don't know nearly enough about the boxes and gear ratios offered to say anything more than "interesting". There's certainly some room there to maximize the specific ratio choices with FD and tire package. With data aq being as cheap as it is, this shouldn't be too tough for anyone serious about STL.

    Just occured to me, one potential limiting factor for folks will be whether they can get legit documentation that their ratio choices are, in fact, factory pieces. Let's say that VW did offer some super awesome homologation special in Europe. Are you going to be able to get documentation to support the specific ratios offered? I dunno (seriously, I don't) but I imagine that this could be a stumbling block for some parts/options.

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    I'm sure Bone could whip together an awesome D-series box and have some great ideas for a B-series box.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian View Post
    You're all welcome?
    eff you

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian View Post
    Cool. The current wording makes more sense understanding that the word "complete" was removed intentially.

    I don't know nearly enough about the boxes and gear ratios offered to say anything more than "interesting". There's certainly some room there to maximize the specific ratio choices with FD and tire package. With data aq being as cheap as it is, this shouldn't be too tough for anyone serious about STL.

    Just occured to me, one potential limiting factor for folks will be whether they can get legit documentation that their ratio choices are, in fact, factory pieces. Let's say that VW did offer some super awesome homologation special in Europe. Are you going to be able to get documentation to support the specific ratios offered? I dunno (seriously, I don't) but I imagine that this could be a stumbling block for some parts/options.

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    I'm sure Bone could whip together an awesome D-series box and have some great ideas for a B-series box.
    Even just a JDM ZC box is different enough than the USDM to be....different. Am I wrong to expect some substantial track dependence on how one set works vs another?

    I do know, however, that my 5 speed set (ITB ) will work a LOT better than the 4 speed (ITC) box in my EF hatch. Everywhurrr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webhound View Post
    eff you



    Even just a JDM ZC box is different enough than the USDM to be....different. Am I wrong to expect some substantial track dependence on how one set works vs another?

    I do know, however, that my 5 speed set (ITB ) will work a LOT better than the 4 speed (ITC) box in my EF hatch. Everywhurrr.

    Will
    I don't know that I'd say "substantial" and, if I'm honest, I'd expect there to be potentially less track dependency than a FD can play in IT. I suspect that with the ability to tweak all the ratios, you can find a compromise gearbox that's good everywhere. The "gold" setup in my mind would be a 2-5 gear cluster that, with the right FD, keeps the engine inside it's optimum powerband everywhere on track. You may still end up with an outlier track that necessitates a different FD for optimum performance or different 2-5 gearing (i.e. Daytona) but for most people I think one tranny should be just fine. And, again, this is no different than IT where a CRX+4.7 works perfect at Daytona but you want a 4.9 for Road Atlanta and many other SE tracks.
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