Please help me understand the Audi issue...

[seckerich]

I think you all assume that ALL the members of the CRB actually see and are part of these decisions. You would be wrong. Most times they are just dealt with by the Liason to the specific ADHOC. Starting to get the picture? You need to pick up the phone and speak directly with those members in your area. They need to be informed. Please don't assume that this entire group has it out for you. I did until I got deeper into this. They need to be given both sides of the arguement. Some that made these decisions will try to hide behind the letter you have posted about "errors and omissions" used in error. It has been proven repeatedly that the entire ITCS before the GR was nothing but a dart board SWAG with no repeatable process. We were given the go ahead to do that and so far it has worked well. It is an error that they were classed under 10 different criteria over the years and now are getting fixed. This will be an agenda item for them Tuesday night so now is the time to act. Do you care enough to pick up a phone?

[Knestis]

I think you all assume that ALL the members of the CRB actually see and are part of these decisions. You would be wrong. ...

I'm having a really big DUH moment here.

The natural way for the CRB - as a whole - to deal with the challenge of managing car-level decisions for such a diverse list of categories is to count on its members who are "in the know" about each one.

In all my time on the ITAC, I ASSUMED - naively, perhaps - that the CRB as a body knew what we were doing. If that's not the case, I think I am back in the game. I've been reluctant to get involved in communication to the BoD because I don't want to distract discussion with what could be perceived as my personal issues re: the mandate to not communicate publicly, and subsequent resignation. BUT maybe the ENTIRE CRB needs to know what was communicated to me through Andy, as representing their position...

K

[seckerich]

I'm having a really big DUH moment here.

The natural way for the CRB - as a whole - to deal with the challenge of managing car-level decisions for such a diverse list of categories is to count on its members who are "in the know" about each one.

In all my time on the ITAC, I ASSUMED - naively, perhaps - that the CRB as a body knew what we were doing. If that's not the case, I think I am back in the game. I've been reluctant to get involved in communication to the BoD because I don't want to distract discussion with what could be perceived as my personal issues re: the mandate to not communicate publicly, and subsequent resignation. BUT maybe the ENTIRE CRB needs to know what was communicated to me through Andy, as representing their position...

K

You would be correct. The BOD should also be personally made aware and brought up to speed. Please everyone remember these are for the most part good people that volunteer their time to the club. All I have spoken with are very polite and took time from their daily life to talk things over. Return that respect and be polite and to the point about what we want for IT. A fair shot at a level playing field free from personal motives. If you disagree with that statement let them know that as well.

[RSTPerformance]

All I have spoken with are very polite and took time from their daily life to talk things over.

Its just to bad that they (CR can't be bothered or polite enough to call us. Instead they have secret discussions behind closed doors about people like myself... Some even go as far to complain and start rumors on one hand about possible cheating while on the other hand they say that the performance is valid to use towards classifications. :eek:

Return that respect and be polite and to the point about what we want for IT.

I don't think anyone on the CRB has ever shown me respect... although Bob did send me an e-mail last night saying he would get back to me tonight after his first e-mail that didn't satisfy my original e-mail... Its early but I am waiting and hoping that your first quote will come true... I will let you know either way!

A fair shot at a level playing field free from personal motives.

We would all like that I think, but from what I can tell this is not what any of the CRB members are looking for at this time... We probably need a complete revamp of the current committee. Kirk would get my first vote as a member... oh wait we as members don't get to choose who is on that committee do we??? Politics at its best

Raymond

[RSTPerformance]

Its just to bad that they (CR can't be bothered or polite enough to call us. Instead they have secret discussions behind closed doors about people like myself... Some even go as far to complain and start rumors on one hand about possible cheating while on the other hand they say that the performance is valid to use towards classifications. :eek:



I don't think anyone on the CRB has ever shown me respect... although Bob did send me an e-mail last night saying he would get back to me tonight after his first e-mail that didn't satisfy my original e-mail... Its early but I am waiting and hoping that your first quote will come true... I will let you know either way!



We would all like that I think, but from what I can tell this is not what any of the CRB members are looking for at this time... We probably need a complete revamp of the current committee. Kirk would get my first vote as a member... oh wait we as members don't get to choose who is on that committee do we??? Politics at its best

Raymond

Never recieved that e-mail as promised.... Same bullshit I have been told for 9 months... "We will get back to you..."

mass E-mail mode goes into effect tomorrow... Can't belive I am even giving a grace period... Realisticly it is because it is to late tonight to send an e-mail that probably wouldn't be recieved until Monday anyhow.

Raymond "yet another disapoitment" Blethen

[lateapex911]

Bobs at Lime Rock racing. Maybe he's having a tugh time getting on line?

[RSTPerformance]

Bob is a good guy... He got back to me, I will digest and share my final thoughts later... as mentionedd by others, anyone who wants cars classed in IT without the potential political or personal influence and those whom want a process that is fair and open for everyone to understand should write to the CRB NOW!!!

Raymond