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    mind to elobrate tGA?
    Demetrius Mossaidis aka 'Mickey' #12 ITA NESCCA
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossaidis View Post
    mind to elobrate tGA?
    Too many races, at too many places, in too short a timespan. No way I'll commit that kinda time, space, and money for...a regional championship? Uh, no.

    See you guys at the National weekend in a few weeks. We're up to four STU entries for the "I.T.-Shack Championship"!

    GA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Too many races, at too many places, in too short a timespan.

    GA
    Huh?
    Half as many events as last year, evenly spred over our regular season.

    On the other hand, full fields of STU cars would be fun.
    Jerry
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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    Huh?
    Half as many events as last year, evenly spred over our regular season.
    And all manditory. Not what the drivers asked for. Still haven't heard why the PTB have done this. We are weekend warriors, not Pro Racers.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Andy, you made your point, again!
    I told you where I stood but everyone else wanted no drops.
    Greg did not say anything about a manditory series?
    Jerry
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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    Andy, you made your point, again!
    I told you where I stood but everyone else wanted no drops.
    Greg did not say anything about a manditory series?
    And I'll say it until the PTB hear it.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    Greg did not say anything about a manditory series?
    It could have been inferred (it was most assuredly implied).

    No personal offense intended to anyone, but "8 races over 5 weekends at 4 tracks with no drops" in order to win a Regional championship is not Club Racing (as Andy eloquently described). It's actually torturous, unless you're simultaneously wealthy, retired, and bored. The perfect race series for Club Racing is one race weekend per month, spread evenly on both a calender and geographical basis, optimally hitting all the key tracks at least once, with opportunity to accommodate a failure or two through the year (e.g., family/career commitments and/or equipment failures on 10-20% of the weekends).

    While I can see the underlying reason for such a series as presented (e.g., using the series championship push as a bone to encourage competitor participation at more events and at more tracks) what the schedule has effectively done is cause a lot of folks to drop out of the series before it ever got started...

    We cannot as competitors (i.e., the ones providing the revenue) make every SCCA region and/or every SCCA event at every SCCA-accessible race track profitable. There's just not enough time and money to go around.

    It's time to cull the herd.

    GA

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    I can't tell you how many times I have tried to explain that racing is a commodity. It is NOT a club atmosphere. Racers simply do not care about the regions, who is hosting events and if they make money or not. They look at the family schedule and then say what weekends can I slot into my free time. Just that simple...

    Over time as we have already began to see that the northeast is unraveling and quite frankly we have too many regions and too much politics. The regions with the best events, most value and ease of running will ultimately win.

    Just my .02. Call me a cynic, call me what you want, but this is how its SUPPOSE TO WORK.

    Rant off.
    Jeremy Billiel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    It could have been inferred (it was most assuredly implied).

    The perfect race series for Club Racing is one race weekend per month, spread evenly on both a calender and geographical basis, optimally hitting all the key tracks at least once...
    GA
    Amen amen amen amen.

    Steve

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