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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Nope, but does SCCA publish the allowed "chassis" as "E36", or do they publish it as "M3" or "325"?

    Maybe there's your answer.

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    In STO, it's listed as an e36. In STU it's not listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3_GoCar View Post
    In STO, it's listed as an e36. In STU it's not listed.
    Yes, but almost every other precedent in the ST regs - STL, STU allowances and STO classifications - all reference make/model versus internal chassis codes. That, and/or it specs a particular year of chassis by further spec'ing the internal chassis code (e.g., "E46 M3").

    So I suggest we've taken the long route to come around to answering your question of "what's the chassis" as "BMW M3", or "BMW E46 M3", not just "BMW E36".

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    On edit: just took a gander at existing STU/L/O classifications to verify that. STO lists things such as "BMW E46 M3 & E36" and "BMW E46 M3" and "BMW M3 E92". The only STU allowances are in World Challenge, and appear as "BMW E36 M3 (95-99)" and "BMW E46 3 Series". The implication of these listings is that the internal chassis codes are secondary clarifiers to the make/model being classified, using those codes instead of years; in other words, what's being classified is, for example, the "BMW M3, 1992-1998"(?), shorthanded to "BMW M3, E36." The implication of that usage is that the "chassis" is defined by "BMW M3" and is clarified by "E36", not the other way around. Thus, this allowance/restriction applies only to the BMW M3, not to any chassis code that's an E36 yet is not an M3.

    Now, all that said, I suggest if you wish to have the other cars applied to that allowance, the CRB would likely approve it if requested. Or, they may choose to say "whatever, if it's an E36 it applies" and change the line so that it removes the "M3".
    Last edited by Greg Amy; 07-31-2012 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z3_GoCar View Post
    In STO, it's listed as an e36. In STU it's not listed.

    There is one spec line for BMW E46 & E36 in STO and it says M3 not Z3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhooten View Post
    There is one spec line for BMW E46 & E36 in STO and it says M3 not Z3.
    Sorry Jerry, Greg has it correctly: e46 M3 & e36. To me that implies that the e46 must be the M3 version and the e36 could be any version with the S54 motor.
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