Woot Finally got the car I was looking for!!

[lawtonglenn]

...Phase 4 suspension system...

What the heck is that?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhgBvOWb_k&feature=related[/ame]

[wepsbee]

I was told by the Koni engineer that the setup I purchased was good
up to 800. Anything greater than that and I will need to get them revalved.
I am currently running 700 in rear and 600 in front. Not broke yet!!
Do you having any experience in using these struts and having them fail
with a 600# spring? I would be curious understanding the failure
mechanism.
Having these revalved to a 900 or 1200 range, if doable, is a long way from" too
soft will never work".
I think I will give them a try anyway.

[JLawton]

Do you having any experience in using these struts and having them fail
with a 600# spring? I would be curious understanding the failure
mechanism.
.

There are people WAY more qualified to answer this but I'll give it a whack. It's not that the strut will "break", it's that it won't be able to control the spring at that point. Do you see those kids on the street with the slammed cars and they're driving down the road and the car is bouncing up and down. That's what happens when you use to much spring for the valving.

As you can imagine you don't want to be driving through a corner having the car bouncing up and down.

[wepsbee]

There are people WAY more qualified to answer this but I'll give it a whack. It's not that the strut will "break", it's that it won't be able to control the spring at that point. Do you see those kids on the street with the slammed cars and they're driving down the road and the car is bouncing up and down. That's what happens when you use to much spring for the valving.

As you can imagine you don't want to be driving through a corner having the car bouncing up and down.

Very true, Thanks for the info.
I have disconnected the front sway bar recently which resulted in way
better control and reduced understeer. Car is responding better than
ever. Unfortunetly I do not have any experience prior to that change
with differences in the struts or springs which would indicate that now
I have an issue. No bouncing that I can recognize given my experience
level. Perhaps having the current setup revalved would make a difference,
I just do not know. I do check the "bounce" on the car by using the
unscientific method of pushing down on the corners of the car. I have
yet to be able to generate much bounce so I call it good.
I have sent an email to Koni for some clarification on the range of the
Phase 4 system and if they will handle to loads required by the Integra.
I will get back to all interested when I ge an answer.
BTW Thanks to all for the discussion.

[Greg Amy]

Dan, the fastest, most efficient, and cheapest way to build a top-notch ITA Acura Integra is...buy Geoff Branscombe's car. You will not be able to build anything close to that for twice the money he's asking.

And you simply can't build anything better than that, period.

/thread

[wepsbee]

Dan, the fastest, most efficient, and cheapest way to build a top-notch ITA Acura Integra is...buy Geoff Branscombe's car. You will not be able to build anything close to that for twice the money he's asking.

And you simply can't build anything better than that, period.

/thread

I completely agree, however the money for a new car will come in slowly.
Not fair for Goeff to have him wait for an indeterminite time. I agree that I
will not be able to build a car with Geoff's quality but there is fun to be had
in building something yourself and racing it. The possibility of having a car
ready for the beginning of next year is remote as I am hoping for at least mid year.
After spending what I spent on the Escort and getting what I have I do
understand the concept.

[wepsbee]

Is Geoff advertising his car here?
I would like to look at it just in case.

[wepsbee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhgB...eature=related

Excellent, this is what we need, a force that knows what the other driver
is going to do before he does

[mossaidis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuhgB...eature=related

You bastard... you killed Kenny!