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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrar05 View Post
    I can't use that when I want to run a Mustang Challenge race. I can't use my Hybrid either in those races. I have a modest budget at best. I can't afford a different H&N and helmet package for each sanctioning body I want to race with.
    I guess I was thinking of the wrong Mustang Challenge race. The one I know of uses the cars built by Ford, which sold for $75K. A guy I know rents one for the season, and it works out to be about $10K a race.

    if that's the same series you're going to do two events in, I wouldn't mind having your "modest budget", LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    I guess I was thinking of the wrong Mustang Challenge race. The one I know of uses the cars built by Ford, which sold for $75K. A guy I know rents one for the season, and it works out to be about $10K a race.

    if that's the same series you're going to do two events in, I wouldn't mind having your "modest budget", LOL.
    1. A used $75k Mustang Challenge car is a lot less. A lot.
    2. That $10k includes A LOT of professional race team overhead. Tractor Trailer, Max tools, Crew, Hospitality and so on.
    3. The races are sprint races. 4 sessions. One set of new tires and a little more than on tank of fuel. If I wanted to run a
    Mustang Challenge race I could do it for 30% of a rental. That would qualify as modest.
    Last edited by Cobrar05; 11-28-2008 at 09:08 PM.


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    Hey - on the egress question, note this little item in the December Fastrack:

    Item 2. Effective 1/1/09: Add the following sentence to section 9.1.3.D.9.m:
    If equipped, the vent window and its supporting structure may be removed.


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    Letter sent............

    ***Item 2. Effective 1/1/09: Add the following sentence to section 9.1.3.D.9.m:
    If equipped, the vent window and its supporting structure may be removed.***


    As much as some of you guys (not you K) dislike the Spec Miata I believe this ^ is a trickle down safety rule from Spec Miata.
    Have Fun ; )
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddewhurst View Post
    Letter sent............

    ***Item 2. Effective 1/1/09: Add the following sentence to section 9.1.3.D.9.m:
    If equipped, the vent window and its supporting structure may be removed.***


    As much as some of you guys (not you K) dislike the Spec Miata I believe this ^ is a trickle down safety rule from Spec Miata.
    You're right. The original request was for SMs to get the allowance when running in IT. But, it is a good idea, and therefore, it will be implemented across the board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobrar05 View Post
    1. A used $75k Mustang Challenge car is a lot less. A lot.
    2. That $10k includes A LOT of professional race team overhead. Tractor Trailer, Max tools, Crew, Hospitality and so on.
    3. The races are sprint races. 4 sessions. One set of new tires and a little more than on tank of fuel. If I wanted to run a
    Mustang Challenge race I could do it for 30% of a rental. That would qualify as modest.
    Hey, it's modest for my pal who runs the season, LOL. I'd love to have a part of his "modest'!

    The series isn't even a year old, yet...what are used ones selling for? Is the series growing next year?
    Jake Gulick


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    Quote Originally Posted by lateapex911 View Post
    Hey, it's modest for my pal who runs the season, LOL. I'd love to have a part of his "modest'!

    The series isn't even a year old, yet...what are used ones selling for? Is the series growing next year?
    There are four cars on the market that I know of. All around the $50k mark. All not selling. There built 77 of the cars and have more than half that number still unsold.

    Its a buyer's market. The price of a used race car will drop further.


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    Letter sent yesterday. opposed to mandated H&NR. Pro choice.

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