Question regarding rules for wheel width on an IT car in solo FSP

[jumbojimbo]

CRX si would be ITB, not ITC. Does it have a carb or is it fuel injected? It might be an ITC car with a carb but with si bumpers and bodywork. (which isn't legal for ITC, but bring it to GLD and we wouldn't care).
There are no corresponding solo classes in SP for ITX or ITE, so if it isn't a legal ITB/ITC car, you can't run SP (not legally anyway).
If it is a legal ITB or ITC car then you can go to the matching SP class, which I think changed recently, so you'll have to look up the matching SP class, but ITC is limited to 6" wheels and ITB to 7", right?
But you already know that it's not just wheels, you have to make everything IT legal to run SP.

On the third hand, nationally you aren't going to be remotely competitive in SP, but you don't have to win for people to be unhappy if you aren't legal. If you finish 20th out of 24, there will be 4 people not too happy, depending on what isn't legal on your car.

[Andy69]

CRX si would be ITB, not ITC. Does it have a carb or is it fuel injected? It might be an ITC car with a carb but with si bumpers and bodywork. (which isn't legal for ITC, but bring it to GLD and we wouldn't care).
There are no corresponding solo classes in SP for ITX or ITE, so if it isn't a legal ITB/ITC car, you can't run SP (not legally anyway).
If it is a legal ITB or ITC car then you can go to the matching SP class, which I think changed recently, so you'll have to look up the matching SP class, but ITC is limited to 6" wheels and ITB to 7", right?
But you already know that it's not just wheels, you have to make everything IT legal to run SP.

On the third hand, nationally you aren't going to be remotely competitive in SP, but you don't have to win for people to be unhappy if you aren't legal. If you finish 20th out of 24, there will be 4 people not too happy, depending on what isn't legal on your car.

ack! These rules make my head spin sometimes. Looking at the most recent GCR (September 2014), yes indeed the Si is in ITB. I guess I was looking at an older copy or something as I swear it said the second gen was in B and first in C. Either that or I just suck at reading rule books I see they split the Si and the non Si into separate classes. Ah well, glad that's straightened out. That's actually good news as I knew the wheels I have are lot legal in ITC as they are wider than 6".

I was concerned about the wheels as I've been running a set of 13" Keizers with 225/45/13 Hankook z214s (which do not change my class for NASA). They stick out past the wheel opening but the actual part that contacts the ground does not. I want to say they are 7" wide honestly I'll need to measure them again. Old memory ain't what she used to be.

The only other concerns I had were the camber plates (legal on McStrut cars, which I think the CRX qualifies as even though it uses torsion bars rather then coilovers?) and of course my door panels, which I just haven't gotten around to putting back on yet. Plus the fact it has very little in the way of interior (OK in IT), which actually caused some consternation on the part of the local region, as they initially put me in CSP then wanted to move the car to prepared because of the no interior, then had a heated discussion among themselves before throwing up their hands

I've been PAXing favorably against some nationally competitive cars in other classes, but don't really have any competition in FSP around here. Curious to see how I would do. Probably not well but it sure would be fun trying. I had a blast at Blytheville last weekend.

[Andy69]

wait a minute, looks like ITB is 6" according to the September rules. Hmmm :-/

[dickita15]

yes ITB & C are 6", ITA is 7".

[jumbojimbo]

yeah, my bad, i should have looked it up. ITB is 6" too. What SP class did they stick you in? in the old days we went to CSP based on the words "corresponding SP class" we thought that meant ITC went to CSP and ITB went to BSP. Didn't matter much because anyone in a real SP car was going to beat us. But now we understand we should be in FSP because that is where the SP 3G Hondas are.

[Andy69]

yeah, my bad, i should have looked it up. ITB is 6" too. What SP class did they stick you in? in the old days we went to CSP based on the words "corresponding SP class" we thought that meant ITC went to CSP and ITB went to BSP. Didn't matter much because anyone in a real SP car was going to beat us. But now we understand we should be in FSP because that is where the SP 3G Hondas are.

The rules say "corresponding SP class", which I take to mean whichever SP class the CRX Si is in. Used to be CSP but is now FSP. The local region put me in CSP after a brief argument (then someone objected and wanted me in GP, then argued some more, and the CSP folks won out), then I put myself in FSP this year and so far no one has objected.

I wish there were a way to set up the car to be competitive in both FSP and NXE, but alas.

It might actually be easier at this point to use the SP rules. I'd probably be more competitive.

Heck, aside from interior and tires, I think the car would go in STS

[Flyinglizard]

Verify the door panel thing..
We always ran the ITB car in FSP, untill I welded the diff.

[Andy69]

Verify the door panel thing..
We always ran the ITB car in FSP, untill I welded the diff.

I take this to mean it either needs door panels or an aluminum sheet

Carpets, center consoles,
floor mats, headliners, sun roof liner
and frame, dome lights, grab handles, and their insulating,
attaching or operating mechanisms may be removed. Sound
deadening (melt sheets) and undercoating may be removed.
Door interior trim panels may be replaced with 0.060” - 0.065”
aluminum securely attached to the door. All other interior trim
panels, except the dashboard, may be removed. Other than
to provide for the installation of required safety equipment
or other authorized modifications, no other driver/passenger
compartment alterations or gutting are permitted