ITS Ford Mustang(s) Build - Stripper Stang Part II

[Ron Earp]

Secretaries? Lol.

Strippers, rednecks, and liars make up the bulk of them. Seriously, one owner offered to pose with the car if I bought it - stripper, Morehead City area of NC.

Another, when asked the condition of the interior of the car replied "that it was gutted and hard to determine because I've been using it for my painter truck. Driver seat is there though and the AC works".

And yet another claimed the car had never been wrecked although the carfax showed odometer rollback, some serious accidents, and one of the damn pictures he posted on Craigslist clearly showed left rear quarter damage. He didn't speak a lot of English so there might have been a miscommunication. Persistent guy though and liked to call me after 10pm at night to offer to sell me the car on the cheap, "I meet you tonight in Raleigh".

Dyno time is set for noon on Monday so we'll wind it up and see what its got. Did you ever dyno your 99 stock?

[RedMisted]

Strippers, rednecks, and liars make up the bulk of them.

I think that many strippers are secretaries moonlighting as such. Lol. Can't wait to hear what you might find when you gut the car.

[RedMisted]

Dyno time is set for noon on Monday so we'll wind it up and see what its got. Did you ever dyno your 99 stock?

Yeah. It was a pathetic 143whp stock.

[Ron Earp]

Yeah. It was a pathetic 143whp stock.

Was this on a Dynojet???

[Ron Earp]

Dyno pull today with a Dynojet, the same one we have been using for all of our race cars.

Any bets on the outcome?

I am guessing 126 rwhp and 182 rwtq. Not sure at what RPMs but it'll be low.

R

[RedMisted]

Was this on a Dynojet???

Yes. And on a hotter than hell/stickier than flypaper humid day, if that makes a difference.

The engine was the original, and I remember when I bought the car that its acceleration was anemic compared to previous rentals that I'd driven. The tuners were able to get it up to a respectable 158whp. Now with all the peripheral mods and the like, the replacement engine gets about 195whp.

I think your estimates are in the ballpark.

[Ron Earp]

The Dynojet spit out 125 horsepower and 189 ft/lbs of torque. The A/F was not so good at WOT and I bet with a bit of tweaking that it'd end up at 130hp and 192 tq, so that is what I'm calling it. Torque good, horsepower is a bit weak but the curves are broad so I think it has potential. Have to think about it.

[RedMisted]

The Dynojet spit out 125 horsepower and 189 ft/lbs of torque. The A/F was not so good at WOT and I bet with a bit of tweaking that it'd end up at 130hp and 192 tq, so that is what I'm calling it. Torque good, horsepower is a bit weak but the curves are broad so I think it has potential. Have to think about it.

I think your hp is just about right if you factor 15% driveline losses. That torque number looks pretty impressive, IMO.

[CRallo]

Wowsers that's a stump puller!!!!

BUILD it!!!

[RedMisted]

The engine was the original, and I remember when I bought the car that its acceleration was anemic compared to previous rentals that I'd driven. The tuners were able to get it up to a respectable 158whp. Now with all the peripheral mods and the like, the replacement engine gets about 195whp.

Tq on the original stock was 177. On the replacement, tq is 211. I think with a good IT build, another 15whp is not out of question. As for tq, the gain may not be as much...

[Ron Earp]

As advertised dyno plots for the engine. This is a bone stock example, still breathing through the stock air cleaner and out through the stock cat and single pipe exhaust. 72k original mile motor as well, with stock ECU and so on.



The torque peak is very low in the engine leading to a low RPM for peak horsepower. More ideal for a truck motor, or automatic equipped car that spends most of its life below 3000 RPM. But, we've seen engines just like this respond well to IT build rules. In fact, at the dyno shop they have a 97 Mustang V6 plot with some large primary long tube headers, dual exhaust via Ford Mustang GT, and cold air intake, with nothing else, that is up about 23 hp but more importantly the hp peak hits around 4700 RPM. Torque is close to the same at 199 lb-ft at around 3500 RPM. I bet with some real attention to all the IT-preps, particularily the exhaust side of things where Fords are generally challenged, we could shift the torque curve considerably.

All in all very promising. I think the engine will respond well to a full tilt IT build. And the chassis is a quite known quantity, which is to say, it isn't fantastic but the warts have long been exposed and it can be made to work reasonably well for what it is.

Might have to build it.

[benspeed]

Go for it! I was contemplating this car before selecting the 968. Could be a winner! Keen to watch the build. Heck, you can always drop in a V8 to race in another class if you feel like it :-)