93 notch mustang 2.3 vs 5.0

[Big3Tom]

Well, the decision has been made to build the car to ITR V-8 specs. Now we start looking for a donor GT.

Since the spec line calls out GT and LX, can I use GT parts when the Notch was only a LX? What if I find a police interceptor notch, that was an LX model.

Tom

[JoshS]

Well, the decision has been made to build the car to ITR V-8 specs. Now we start looking for a donor GT.

Since the spec line calls out GT and LX, can I use GT parts when the Notch was only a LX? What if I find a police interceptor notch, that was an LX model.

Tom

Well, you can't make a model that didn't exist. I think if you turn the car into a police interceptor, you'd be okay, but you can't use GT-only parts on a notch.

[Big3Tom]

Thats what I'm thinking too.

[quadzjr]

was the police intercepter model available from the factory on the lot, that wasn't a dealer option? From the sounds of it it was offered to the "police" and not the public.

[Ron Earp]

Well, the decision has been made to build the car to ITR V-8 specs. Now we start looking for a donor GT.

Since the spec line calls out GT and LX, can I use GT parts when the Notch was only a LX? What if I find a police interceptor notch, that was an LX model.

Tom

Look long and hard at that decision.

I was one of the folks responsible for getting V8 Mustangs into ITR and the proposal was narrow in scope to increase the chances of passing. So, we specified only Mustang GTs. Bear in mind that excludes Mustang Cobra (1993) and any nice parts it has to offer (improved heads, intake, and rear discs - the real key).

If you choose a 86-93 GT Mustang you're at a pretty high weight with small front discs and drum rears. The current climate around the CRB/ITAC pretty much guarentees no changes to cars in the foreseeable future, so don't request adjustments to the car - know the car going into it.

A better choice, IMHO, is the 1994/1995 Mustang GT which is, at today's prices, about the same. A running 90 GT will cost you $1400, a running 94 GT is around $2500 where I'm at. Not a whole lot more given how much money will eventually go into a top notch ITR car.........

was the police intercepter model available from the factory on the lot, that wasn't a dealer option? From the sounds of it it was offered to the "police" and not the public.

It wasn't offered to the public and it isn't on the spec line. As I recall there wasn't much to it either - engine oil cooler, better radiator, hoses, swaybar, better alternator, etc. Engine output was the same, despite some myths to the contrary. Check the Ford sites, they'll run it down for you.

[jimbbski]

I just looked at the SCCA web site at the ITR rules and it says only 89-93 Mustang GT and LX Mustangs. There is no mention of hatchback vrs notch. Both cane with 5.0 v8s and all suspension & drive trains were the same. Same brakes, rear end, transmission. It didn't mater if it was a hatchback or a notch. I owned 3 different Fox Mustangs and raced a '93 Cobra R. I thing I know what I'm talking about.

Saying that I do agree that the 94-95 GT may be a better choise for ITR. Stiffer chassis, better suspension & brakes stock, and can run at a lighter weight. Cost of these cars is not much higher then a 5.0 Fox. A Fox in good condition is now holding its own price wise and may in the future go up a bit. I know a stock 5.0 notch in good condition can command a price higher then a stock GT.

[Ron Earp]

I just looked at the SCCA web site at the ITR rules and it says only 89-93 Mustang GT and LX Mustangs. There is no mention of hatchback vrs notch.

I stand corrected. I don't recall doing the LX line, but, it matters little as you say since a 5L LX was the same as the 5L GT except for the godawful looking louvers and skirts the GT sported. I had an 85 5L LX notch back before they got "cool" in the 90s and LXs became more common.

[Big3Tom]

Well its time to live with my decisions. I bought a donor 89 LX 5.0 5-speed. We will be pulling the drivetrain and suspension out of it and freshening it up.

I just learned that ITR usually runs in Group 1 with the GT cars.

I drove an ITC at school and I got alot of practice being passed.

This will probably be a good learning experience. I will have less than 5k in the whole car.

Chris... Where you the guys with the datsun shirts on? I was in the little 04 Honda. We ran in different groups.

What a blast...I'm hooked. I hope to run the ITC enduro in 2 weeks @ Daytona and then Homestead and Sebring.

Tom

[Big3Tom]

Well we went to Daytona and ran in the Group I enduro as well as the Group VII regional. We ran a Honda Civic and we were seriously under powered. I spent the whole time playing the role of pylon on a rollerskate. I want to go faster, yet I would enjoy being a competitive ITB car.

We got a line on an AS Camaro if we want to run with the V8s.

I have gone back and forth on the Mustang and have now collected a 302/T5 drivetrain,a 302/auto combo, and a complete 2.3/T5 car.

I can sell all of the parts and make money, but my son wants to build his own car.

If we commit to ITB, would it be smarter to build from scratch with the 2.3 car or convert the AS project to ITB?

Dang, I sound like my wife at Belks.

Anybody want a 90 notch 2.3/T5 for $1200.00? We have the title.

Tom