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    Ok, on the temp gauges...do you have harnesses yet? They use pull-down resistors, and the sensor you need depends on the harness you have. I have three oil temp sensors available for the "old" harness about 5+ years ago, but they're now using the same harness/sensor for both water and oil.

    Oil pressure you can use an Autometer sensor and harness, as it does not use pull-down. I've got the formula for that.

    Fuel pressure is prob the same sensor as oil pressure.

    What do you have, and what do you want to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Ok, on the temp gauges...do you have harnesses yet? They use pull-down resistors, and the sensor you need depends on the harness you have. I have three oil temp sensors available for the "old" harness about 5+ years ago, but they're now using the same harness/sensor for both water and oil.

    Oil pressure you can use an Autometer sensor and harness, as it does not use pull-down. I've got the formula for that.

    Fuel pressure is prob the same sensor as oil pressure.

    What do you have, and what do you want to buy?
    I have autometer guages installed in the dash but thinking of giving them to my brother since I have the DL1. So I would give him the guages and the sensors I have installed along with the wiring. I did have to use an adaptor on the engine to install the autometer oil temp sensor and I would keep that. So basically I have spots for the autometer style sensors to be installed (maybe 1/8NPT but not really sure, I would have to check) and a DL1, so I guess that I need sensors, whatever is needed to wire it into the DL1 and then the magic codes to make it all work!

    This is a link to 1 of the guages. they all match... http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-4337/overview/

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    I've got that gauge sending unit in my car for temperature (single wire right?) and the pull down resistor and the equation if you want it. The equation gets a little weird at room temperature so when you start the car it will tell you that the oil & water temps are like 5 deg. I'm guessing they get weird at really high temps too, but in the 190-220 range they are correct having checked them against other known temp senders.

    Fuel pressure - autometer makes a fuel pressure gauge that has a three wire sender, will work in parallel w/ the gauge and the DL-1. I have a fuel pressure gauge w/ very technical change to read oil pressure - a small label says "oil" stuck over the "fuel" label. This reads on teh DL-1 w/ a pretty simple equation that the DL-1 will create for you w/ a couple of data points (it is linear, whereas the temp senders are not). I think I have this one: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/atm-3363/overview/

    Shoot me an email or give a call if you want to see how they are wired.

    Matt

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    Another option is the Autometer Elite gauges. They all have a 0-5V output from the gauge to connect to a dash/datalogger.

    The gauges are quite nice--they can change color and flash to alarm on under/over range.

    http://www.autometer.com/media_newsarticle.aspx?aid=106
    #08 ITA/STL Miata

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwasilko View Post
    Another option is the Autometer Elite gauges. They all have a 0-5V output from the gauge to connect to a dash/datalogger... The gauges are quite nice--they can change color and flash to alarm on under/over range.
    I think The Boys already have a R-T dash that comes with limit warnings and flashy LEDs....

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    I have a dash 3 So I think I can program it as Greg mentions. I really don't want to buy more gauges our use any part of the ones I have. The idea is to eliminate the gauges I have and give my entire gauge package to my brother and he can buy me the sensors to utilize my dl1 and dash3

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    Well, the easy button is to buy sensors direct from Race Technology, complete with the harnesses and already-programmed-in functions/formulas.

    Oil/ Fuel Pressure - http://www.race-technology.com/oil__...ure_8_976.html
    Oil/diff/water temp - http://www.race-technology.com/water...ure_8_973.html
    Water temp - do you have the OBD inputting to the DASH3 so you can set alarms? If not, same sensor as above.

    My oil temp sensor is screwed into the oil pan; water temp is screwed into the head (drilled and re-threaded the stock hole); oil pressure is tee'd off a braided-steel line mounted to the firewall, with the other side of the tee going to the stock dash idiot light. For temps I'm using R-T sensors; for pressure I'm using the lesser-expensive Autometer oil pressure sensor, as pressure is a straight linear-voltage function (temp sensors require step-down resistors to convert the output. Not difficult to do.)

    GA

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    Greg, I am not sure what you mean by harness. I have zero wiring going out of the dl1 other than gps and CAN BUS adaptor. Oh and a video thing that I never used...

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