You keep doing it Andy, mixing the issues. It's NOT the DD SMs that will keep drivers - heck, ME - from investing in trying to make the civic competitive. It's the vehicle dynamics reality of doing so against sports and GT cars with inherent advantages that will allow entrants of those cars to "control the gap" - both on the track and where competition adjustments happen.

Farbman made a strategic error by going two seconds faster in practice than his eventual race lap record at NJMP this spring. He went back to the hymnal in the race and only went as fast as he needed to. Watch how hard he doesn't have to work to catch Greg in his glen video.

The fundamental differences in chassis layouts, in the moving-target world of nationals, makes it a fool's errand to build anything other than one of the very short list of swapped sports cars for STL.

K