Greg (et al.) - Can I get some guidance re: what specs you need in order to consider a specific spec-line request? What kind of documentation counts as sufficient evidence on which to base a decision? I'm looking at the Euro-spec VW ABF 2.0 16v, as found in the continental GTI of the same generation as Pablo.
Thanks in advance,
Kirk
Not yet. We need to get the general idea approved before we can get to the specifics.
My sense is that we're going to need power output specs to ensure it does not exceed expected guidelines for the class (whatever those are), and then relevant scrutineering specs so it can be tech'd (e.g., intake manifold design/part numbers, throttle body size/part numbers, valve sizes, some idea of stock port configuration, etc). But that's just a WAG on my part right now.
Let's get buy-in on the concept then we can work on the details.
GA
Your thread over on RRAX brought about a response from Mr Keane (of the CRB ), who seems to indicate he's in favor of the concept.
http://www.roadraceautox.com/showthr...t=38540&page=2
I really really hope they don't do the 5% off strut cars to equalize performance to RWD cars. Right idea but wrong order. Get big issues resolved, then do the smaller bits.
I AM encouraged though, to see a bit of a break from the Everything is equal, just pick your weight and race mentality. Allowing that chassis selection does matter, and wanting to adjust for that...by genre...is a good indication that they are thinking that it would be good to get more cars on the same relative footing.
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I'm very happy to see that this is being worked on. Please inform us when and how we should show our support most productivly.
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You are perfectly welcome to install a 13B in the RX8 and run it at the 13b weight. There are options. Everyone would like there car to fit inside the Super touring Box neatly and cleanly. It just doesn't work that way.
I for one know of an RX8 that will be running ST in GLDiv. Lets see how it does and if it really is that far off, then we can re look at it. I suspect it will do just fine.
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Chris,
I was confused because I thought other ITR cars could run in STL with ITR prep levels. Some others on this site posted they were going to run an S2000 under ITR prep rules. That is what didn't make sense to me.
Sorry, Back on topic...
Stephen
Still wondering what rule or principle of the SCCA we're upholding by only allowing "in family" engine swaps, whatever that tortured interpretation is.
I would like to see more of what Ron is talking about... complete engine swaps. set the weight based on engine adders, suspension adders and maybe a few other things and let them run! Use any engine in any chasis! That would be cool and I bet we would see some cool cars to
Stephen
Submit a rule proposal, see what happens...
Not intending it a personal attack, Ron, but that's just a really silly idea. Short of roundy-round and drag racing, you'd be hard-pressed to find any other racing org that allows, for example, installing Ford engines into Camaros. I doubt even the vaunted N-group does that.
My first thought when I read your post way up there was not "why are we not being allowed to do that?" but "why in the hell would anyone want to do that...?" I mean, it's like dogs and cats sleeping together...
If you want to go that direction, just build a GT tubeframe car and slap whatever shaped headlights and logo attract your attention.
GA
I dunno, I suppose I'm a stupid minority that doesn't recognize an unwritten race rule that reads "Thou shalt not swap Honda engines into a Ford chassis, it is just a really silly idea".
The rule set is based on displacement and weight, the engines don't care who made them and I'm not sure why the racers would.
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