Woot Finally got the car I was looking for!!

I realize it is not the same but similiar. I have started a build of a 91 Integra LS.
Some stuff translates to my car. I spoke with Truechoice Koni Racing and they suggest
the Phase 4 suspension system. About $2k, sounds like a plan. ASR rear sway also looks good.
Good luck with your build
 
Wow sweet thank you for the info! That is exactly what i was looking for. Double adjustable that is not 5K lol.


A bit of an update on this car I removed the interior to find a horrable discovery the Point of the car where the Floor pan meets the trunk is almost runsted through. There was a bit of Rot in the Left fender well but the floor is making me question the if this will be a good donor chassis.:shrug:

To add Insult to injury sounds like MAM may not reopen ever being flooded all summer I think damaged the track beyond repair. :(
 
Jeremy Billiel said:
but sorry to say if you can't afford the shocks you can't afford to race.
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Says the guy who is no longer racing............... Stop being a Drama Queen Jeremy......


I think a better way of saying it is: It's not the optimal set up and won't put you at the pointy end of the pack but at least you will be out there having fun!!

Or, for the price of a really, REALLY good set of shocks you can buy a champioship winning ITA Saturn............ :D
 
Jeremy Billiel said:
Unless you run very soft rates, which this car does not want. Koni yellows will not work.

You will want Koni 3011's or 2812's. It's going to cost some big bucks, but sorry to say if you can't afford the shocks you can't afford to race.
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Right!!!!
What do you classify as soft rates. Can you tell me what rate these are valved for and what rates it would be best to use on track for the Integra. That would be very helpful in having a starting point. Also I dont see were they indicate that struts used are the Koni yellows. We used, based upon other experts, Koni 8611's which seemed to work well. They were not the $4000 struts we apparently need to race but they got us around the track and we actually raced with other cars, it was fun.:eclipsee_steering:
 
I use Koni yellows on my Golf, but had them revalved by the race gurus at KONI to handle the 700# springs we run on the back. (EDIT - fronts are 500s, if I recall correctly.) It's probably not optimal but they get the job done. I don't think off-the-shelf valving is going to control more than 500# of spring but the motion ratios on the Integra are different than the struts on the Golf so Greg will know better.

K
 
Kirk is dead on... You can have Koni Yellows revalved and they are good for 500-700 lbs springs. I wouldn't recommend going much more than 600 though.. The shocks can not keep up well above 600 IMO.

Integras are running 700-900 lbs in front and 1100-1500 rear for a reference
 
I was told by the Koni engineer that the setup I purchased was good
up to 800. Anything greater than that and I will need to get them revalved.
I am currently running 700 in rear and 600 in front. Not broke yet!!
Do you having any experience in using these struts and having them fail
with a 600# spring? I would be curious understanding the failure
mechanism.
Having these revalved to a 900 or 1200 range, if doable, is a long way from" too
soft will never work".
I think I will give them a try anyway.
 
wepsbee said:
Do you having any experience in using these struts and having them fail
with a 600# spring? I would be curious understanding the failure
mechanism.
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There are people WAY more qualified to answer this but I'll give it a whack. It's not that the strut will "break", it's that it won't be able to control the spring at that point. Do you see those kids on the street with the slammed cars and they're driving down the road and the car is bouncing up and down. That's what happens when you use to much spring for the valving.

As you can imagine you don't want to be driving through a corner having the car bouncing up and down.
 
JLawton said:
There are people WAY more qualified to answer this but I'll give it a whack. It's not that the strut will "break", it's that it won't be able to control the spring at that point. Do you see those kids on the street with the slammed cars and they're driving down the road and the car is bouncing up and down. That's what happens when you use to much spring for the valving.

As you can imagine you don't want to be driving through a corner having the car bouncing up and down.
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Very true, Thanks for the info.
I have disconnected the front sway bar recently which resulted in way
better control and reduced understeer. Car is responding better than
ever. Unfortunetly I do not have any experience prior to that change
with differences in the struts or springs which would indicate that now
I have an issue. No bouncing that I can recognize given my experience
level. Perhaps having the current setup revalved would make a difference,
I just do not know. I do check the "bounce" on the car by using the
unscientific method of pushing down on the corners of the car. I have
yet to be able to generate much bounce so I call it good.
I have sent an email to Koni for some clarification on the range of the
Phase 4 system and if they will handle to loads required by the Integra.
I will get back to all interested when I ge an answer.
BTW Thanks to all for the discussion.
 
Dan, the fastest, most efficient, and cheapest way to build a top-notch ITA Acura Integra is...buy Geoff Branscombe's car. You will not be able to build anything close to that for twice the money he's asking.

And you simply can't build anything better than that, period.

/thread
 
Greg Amy said:
Dan, the fastest, most efficient, and cheapest way to build a top-notch ITA Acura Integra is...buy Geoff Branscombe's car. You will not be able to build anything close to that for twice the money he's asking.

And you simply can't build anything better than that, period.

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I completely agree, however the money for a new car will come in slowly.
Not fair for Goeff to have him wait for an indeterminite time. I agree that I
will not be able to build a car with Geoff's quality but there is fun to be had
in building something yourself and racing it. The possibility of having a car
ready for the beginning of next year is remote as I am hoping for at least mid year.
After spending what I spent on the Escort and getting what I have I do
understand the concept.
 
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