Sioux Falls, SD
Sioux Falls, SD
I realize it is not the same but similiar. I have started a build of a 91 Integra LS.
Some stuff translates to my car. I spoke with Truechoice Koni Racing and they suggest
the Phase 4 suspension system. About $2k, sounds like a plan. ASR rear sway also looks good.
Good luck with your build
Dan Deyo
92 Acura Integra
ITA #94
Demetrius Mossaidis aka 'Mickey' #12 ITA NESCCA
'92 Honda Civic Si
STFU and "Then write a letter. www.crbscca.com"
2013 ITA NARRC Champion and I have not raced since.
Go to page 18 of this catalog.
http://www.truechoicekoniracingservi...RS_Catalog.pdf
Dan Deyo
92 Acura Integra
ITA #94
Wow sweet thank you for the info! That is exactly what i was looking for. Double adjustable that is not 5K lol.
A bit of an update on this car I removed the interior to find a horrable discovery the Point of the car where the Floor pan meets the trunk is almost runsted through. There was a bit of Rot in the Left fender well but the floor is making me question the if this will be a good donor chassis.
To add Insult to injury sounds like MAM may not reopen ever being flooded all summer I think damaged the track beyond repair.
Says who?
The track is still under water, which makes it tough to assess the damage to the facility. The water that has flooded it is ground water that has come up from below, not an out-of-the-bank river...which at least means there's no current flowing to erode anything.
Now, what happens with the stability of that saturated floodplain is another question....but until the water goes away, I wouldn't seal the coffin.
Jarrod
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Jarrod Igou
ITR/STU BMW 325i, #92
Des Moines Valley Region
Thank you sir for keeping me honest
Jeremy Billiel
Says the guy who is no longer racing............... Stop being a Drama Queen Jeremy......
I think a better way of saying it is: It's not the optimal set up and won't put you at the pointy end of the pack but at least you will be out there having fun!!
Or, for the price of a really, REALLY good set of shocks you can buy a champioship winning ITA Saturn............
Jeff L
ITA Miata
2010 NARRC Champion
2007 NERRC Championship, 2nd place
2008 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
2009 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
Right!!!!
What do you classify as soft rates. Can you tell me what rate these are valved for and what rates it would be best to use on track for the Integra. That would be very helpful in having a starting point. Also I dont see were they indicate that struts used are the Koni yellows. We used, based upon other experts, Koni 8611's which seemed to work well. They were not the $4000 struts we apparently need to race but they got us around the track and we actually raced with other cars, it was fun.
Dan Deyo
92 Acura Integra
ITA #94
I use Koni yellows on my Golf, but had them revalved by the race gurus at KONI to handle the 700# springs we run on the back. (EDIT - fronts are 500s, if I recall correctly.) It's probably not optimal but they get the job done. I don't think off-the-shelf valving is going to control more than 500# of spring but the motion ratios on the Integra are different than the struts on the Golf so Greg will know better.
K
I was told by the Koni engineer that the setup I purchased was good
up to 800. Anything greater than that and I will need to get them revalved.
I am currently running 700 in rear and 600 in front. Not broke yet!!
Do you having any experience in using these struts and having them fail
with a 600# spring? I would be curious understanding the failure
mechanism.
Having these revalved to a 900 or 1200 range, if doable, is a long way from" too
soft will never work".
I think I will give them a try anyway.
Dan Deyo
92 Acura Integra
ITA #94
There are people WAY more qualified to answer this but I'll give it a whack. It's not that the strut will "break", it's that it won't be able to control the spring at that point. Do you see those kids on the street with the slammed cars and they're driving down the road and the car is bouncing up and down. That's what happens when you use to much spring for the valving.
As you can imagine you don't want to be driving through a corner having the car bouncing up and down.
Jeff L
ITA Miata
2010 NARRC Champion
2007 NERRC Championship, 2nd place
2008 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
2009 NARRC Championship, 2nd place
Very true, Thanks for the info.
I have disconnected the front sway bar recently which resulted in way
better control and reduced understeer. Car is responding better than
ever. Unfortunetly I do not have any experience prior to that change
with differences in the struts or springs which would indicate that now
I have an issue. No bouncing that I can recognize given my experience
level. Perhaps having the current setup revalved would make a difference,
I just do not know. I do check the "bounce" on the car by using the
unscientific method of pushing down on the corners of the car. I have
yet to be able to generate much bounce so I call it good.
I have sent an email to Koni for some clarification on the range of the
Phase 4 system and if they will handle to loads required by the Integra.
I will get back to all interested when I ge an answer.
BTW Thanks to all for the discussion.
Dan Deyo
92 Acura Integra
ITA #94
Dan, the fastest, most efficient, and cheapest way to build a top-notch ITA Acura Integra is...buy Geoff Branscombe's car. You will not be able to build anything close to that for twice the money he's asking.
And you simply can't build anything better than that, period.
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Demetrius Mossaidis aka 'Mickey' #12 ITA NESCCA
'92 Honda Civic Si
STFU and "Then write a letter. www.crbscca.com"
2013 ITA NARRC Champion and I have not raced since.
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