One...more....time...

[JLawton]

Hey, don't get testy with Jerry just because he has a different opinion...............





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[JeffYoung]

Exactly - Jerry expressed a valid viewpoint, and did so politiely. That's appreciated.

We need the debate on this. While I support it, in discussing it with those who opposed it I certainly did learn something about potential pitfalls in allowing it that need to be addressed in the rule. Debate is a good thing.

[mossaidis]

Hey, don't get testy with Jerry just because he has a different opinion...............

I did appreciate the disclaimer and approach, wasn't trying to be testy. Seriously. If I was, I would be including him with the like of some others on forum that call us whiners and like. I meant what I said, it takes courage to say what Jerry said on this forum.

Jerry, I meant no offense, it was 6:32 am in morning, please forgive me if I came off as "testy" as that was not my intent. I do want to ask you to expand on your view point if it's anything other than the "if you want to do more to your car, then upgrade to prod" viewpoint.

[JLawton]

I did appreciate the disclaimer and approach, wasn't trying to be testy. Seriously. If I was, I would be including him with the like of some others on forum that call us whiners and like. I meant what I said, it takes courage to say what Jerry said on this forum.

Jerry, I meant no offense, it was 6:32 am in morning, please forgive me if I came off as "testy" as that was not my intent. I do want to ask you to expand on your view point if it's anything other than the "if you want to do more to your car, then upgrade to prod" viewpoint.

My comment was just a generalization and not directed at you. You usually make it VERY clear when you're ripping into someone!!

[tom91ita]

i think i will write another letter regarding H&NR.

only this time i will include ACCUS.

http://www.accusfia.us/

[RacerBill]

i think i will write another letter regarding H&NR.

only this time i will include ACCUS.

http://www.accusfia.us/

Isn't the President and CEO of SCCA also a VP of ACCUS?????????

[tom91ita]

Bill,

not sure about the exact connection but it was something like that.

besides, i think it might be a broader appeal if we can communicate that there is a reason for them to collectively accept a performance based standard as opposed to a design based standard.

[GTIspirit]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the "warts and all" aspect of picking your car for IT. How is it that this saying applies to other discussions, but when it comes to motor mounts poorly suited/fragile for racing application that it's ok to dispense with this wart?

Personally I was opposed to the wording of the previous proposal. I felt there were too many vagaries and loopholes that could be exploited to some kind of advantage, like stated above, such as relocating the engine or modifying the kinematics of the mount system.

If it's simply a material substitution allowance, stock mounting locations and geometry must be maintained, however this is worded, then I'm in support.