DIY Brake rotor cryogenics?

[Greg Amy]

As a follow-up, I have no personal beef with cryo treatment vis-a-vis the philosophy of the class, I'm simply debating the letter of the rule. If the ITAC were to choose to specifically allow cryo of rotors, I'd not be opposed to it.

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[Z3_GoCar]

The ITCS takes precedence over the GCR for anything it specs, it does not replace the GCR in its entirety. Thus, anything mandated in the GCR but not mentioned in the ITCS is also mandated for cars prepped to the ITCS And, when conflicts exist between the GCR and the ITCS the GCR defers to the ITCS.

For example, if the ITCS specifically said cages and handheld fire extinguishers are not required, then it would take precedence over the GCR requirement for cages and fire extinguishers. It's how IT racers get around the FIA certification requirement for fuel cells.

So, since:

- the ITCS takes precedence over the GCR for anything it calls out/conflicts, and
- the ITCS specifically states "[o]ther than those specifically allowed by these rules, no component or part normally found on a stock example of a given vehicle may be disabled, altered, or removed", and
- it is illegal to the ITCS to disable, alter, or remove any part not specifically called out in the ITCS, despite being allowed in the GCR, then
- the ITCS overrides the GCR allowance for cryo treating.


Ergo, cryo treating of brake rotors is illegal.

Like I said, in reality it's undetectable, and personally I think it's all hoo-ey and money wasted...but ...

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D. AUTHORIZED MODIFICATIONS
The following modifications are authorized on all Improved Touring Category
cars. Modifications shall not be made unless authorized herein. No
permitted component/modification shall additionally perform a prohibited

function.


If the ITCS takes precidence then we have the following:

So, since the ITCS doesn't call out that (cages/fire supression/cryo-treat) are allowed, and any modification not authorized herein the ITCS isn't allowed then (cages/fire supression/cryo-treat) are not allowed.

If the GCR section takes presidence over the ITCS, then we have:

Even thought the ITCS doesn't call out that (cages/fire supression/cryo-treat) are allowed, the GCR takes presidence and (cages/fire suppression/cryo-treat) are allowed.

This is the contradiction caused by using IDSYCYC and consolidation of rules into the general section of the GCR, without referencing the GCR in the ITCS.

[Z3_GoCar]

The ITCS takes precedence over the GCR for anything it specs, it does not replace the GCR in its entirety. Thus, anything mandated in the GCR but not mentioned in the ITCS is also mandated for cars prepped to the ITCS And, when conflicts exist between the GCR and the ITCS the GCR defers to the ITCS....
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The ITCS has a section on safety, with no mention of either fire suppression or cages, thus by IDSYCYC these aren't allowed.

The GCR says that fire suppression and cages are manditory, in direct conflict with IDSYCYC, so the GCR has to defer to the ITCS and then cages and fire suppression systems aren't allowed.

But this is silly, because we know that they are allowed, so ergo the ITCS and IDSYCYC has to defer to the GCR. So since IDSYCYC has to defer to the GCR and there's no mention specifically disallowing cryo-treating as per called out in the GCR, then cryo-treating is allowed.

[Matt93SE]

In this case, I'm all for DADT... Don't ask, don't tell.

[joeg]

...How Would One Ever Tell (HWOET)..

[G-Man]

How would people know?
Here's the upcoming news article:
IT-A Rx-7 SETS TRACK RECORD BY SEVEN SECONDS - CAR SMELLS LIKE BARBECUED CHICKEN
Like a carnivorous biodiesel, the Kingsford Charcoal/Heinz BBQ Sauce Rx-7 has set a new track record while wafting grill smells across the paddock.
"We owe it all to our brake rotors," said driver Craig Breedlove, "They stop on a dime and after the race, we use them as hot plates for dinner."

(Thanks to all for the feedback. I won't try this, but if I did, I would videotape it.)

[seckerich]

Its winter. It's boring. Thanks for stirring things up.:026:

[timo944]

Is it legal in IT? Per GCR, section 6 Brakes:

"Brake rotors and drums shall not be modified other than for truing within manufacturers specifications."

I'm so sorry I asked....