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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffYoung View Post
    If we published the process, and let people know how individual cars were classed, that would go a long way towards resolving the issue you identify.

    Kirk, what I can tell you is it was discussed at length, hashed out, and was the result of committee action. I personally don't think any individual biases or any such shenanigans were involved. As a whole, the committee felt that 4 valve motors in ITB typically resulted in a 30% gain, and that is the default for those cars. I respect the committee's decision, and the process used to reach that conclusion.

    You may disagree with that decision, or even think it dumb, but shenanigans is a pretty strong and very inappropriate word for it.
    Jeff, I fully accept that you feel the above statement is accurate.
    But I'm calling BS on it. (With all no disrespect to you!)

    When I was on the ITAC, (and this MR2 thing has been going on YEARS!), various hollow reasons were trotted out defending the absurd factor the MR2 was classed at, and lot's of comical things were stated.
    "Its a Toyota Atlantic motor " is one, and that is the SECOND most absurd reason I've nearly EVER heard.
    But, the number one big stinking pile of poop was the statement by Peter Keane on one of the con calls. "The deal we made to allow 16V cars into ITB was that they must be classed at the higher factor". That's an exact quote: "The deal we made...."
    When I questioned the origin of that 'deal' I found out that refers to stuff that was happening just before my joining the ITAC.

    Now if THAT isn't 'shenanigans' then NOTHING is.


    I'm with Andy. How can the ITAC, on one hand, say, 25% is the standard default, yet SUPPORT the ludicrous stance that the MR2 motor makes 30 or 35%? IF they require 'EVIDENCE" to waver from 25%, then show us the evidence that supports the 30%!!!

    You just can NOT have it both ways.
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