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    A SR-powered 240SX might be the real deal. 170whp Miata? 180whp CRX?

    Wow.
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    The rough target is 100 whp per liter.

    On Edit: 100 flywheel HP per liter not WHP, sorry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    A SR-powered 240SX might be the real deal.

    Wow.
    Sssssshhhhhhh. I'm working on that one.
    The problem is that the NA SR20 is only available in the US in FWD variants, which don't fit in the S13/S14 chassis due to intake manifold, distributor, starter, and cam locations. The turbo SR was never available in the US, so it's out.

    In order to make a FWD SR fit into an RWD platform, you have to use a shload of non-US spec parts, so it would be of questionable legality to try. You'd better have a stack of paperwork from the CRB allowing all of the JDM parts to make it work unless you want to get protested everywhere you go.
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    Best estimated power to weights? Anyone done the math on their favorite STL car yet? I am thinking between 11.0 and 12.0 will be a real runner. Weight / whp.
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    Just a note, I have tried to get a delsol under 2000# for STU..Its almost impossible, we did lexan, removed all structure from the hood & deck lid, I also tried cutting holes in the bumper rebar and broke several hole saws, its made out of Kryptonite or titanium? We even cut off every non essential metal bracket, there is like 5 brackets holding the hyd clutch line & hose..... We are at 2180 with a skinny 160lb driver.The first 200# is easy... It has a B18 Integra LS engine with 180ish hp(its built), and a GSX box...11in corrado rotors & wilwood 4 puck calipers...FUN CAR!!!!! It did a 1.45.00 at MAM.WAHOO!!!!.. We are going to mill the head .030-.040 this winter, do a HOG out port job, Maybe a scirocco 4lb radiator, lighter oil cooler, Swedge tube/heim joint lower C-arms, The uppers are already light......

    I would love to see this setup in a CRX, and some 225-45-15s A6's.....

    Edit: Miatas are going to come in and ruin the ST classes just like they did to ITA.......Only kidding... I love my rabbit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    Best estimated power to weights? Anyone done the math on their favorite STL car yet? I am thinking between 11.0 and 12.0 will be a real runner. Weight / whp.
    100 crank per liter is the target.

    We need things to shake out to see if we are correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit07 View Post
    100 crank per liter is the target.

    We need things to shake out to see if we are correct.
    Really? So 180 crank hp for a 1.8L?

    If a GSR motor makes 200whp in full STU trim, that is an estimated 235 at the crank...or about 130 crank hp/liter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy Bettencourt View Post
    Really? So 180 crank hp for a 1.8L?

    If a GSR motor makes 200whp in full STU trim, that is an estimated 235 at the crank...or about 130 crank hp/liter.
    120 crank for STU is the target, so close.

    Mike VanSteinberg told me he has ITS Miatas making 160ish whp, so why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rabbit07 View Post
    120 crank for STU is the target, so close.

    Mike VanSteinberg told me he has ITS Miatas making 160ish whp, so why not?
    So Chris, forgive me, I don't get it. What kind of 'target' are we talking about here and how does it figure into classification?

    I see the 'target' in STL to be 130hp/L because that seems to be the 'easy' button.
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