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    So on first effort 100 or less over ITB weight.
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    yeah, could have been lighter if i didn't have to patch a sunroof and kept out the extra cage tubing. I'm sure there's some more weight to be cut, but it doesn't really matter since the car is in C and has to be ballasted up to minimum. Either way, I was pretty pumped to hear how light I was able to get it. Shows it's got potential I think. Have to see how it actually does on the track now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwah View Post
    So on first effort 100 or less over ITB weight.
    Come again? 2360 + 180 driver + 30 fuel = 2560. That's 200+ lbs heavier than the Golfs in ITB, right?
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    Does anyone have the 6# harmonic balance that bolts to the cross member?? Does anyone have two horns?

    If you take all of the bolts out of the car, that is what the chassis should look like, according to the rules as I have read them.

    Is the big rear seat housing a part of the seat or chassis. As the Pastor says " slippery slope" . Can you cut the rear parcel shelf supports out? No IMHO/MM

    David, WE are comming for you soon. Mike is going to drive the old welded up Roc in ITB. Hope to see you on the track then . PS, put all those brackets back in tho MM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary L View Post
    Come again? 2360 + 180 driver + 30 fuel = 2560. That's 200+ lbs heavier than the Golfs in ITB, right?
    I was working on the assumption that they would not carry the classification error over to the Beetle. 2350 spec weight works out to something like 22% hp gain. BTW - no need to finish with 30# of fuel...
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    30 lbs of fuel... must have been my start-of-race mentality kicking in automatically.

    As for the "classification error", no comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shwah View Post
    I was working on the assumption that they would not carry the classification error over to the Beetle. 2350 spec weight works out to something like 22% hp gain. BTW - no need to finish with 30# of fuel...
    And that's the dilemma Chris. When you don't fix an error on one car's classification, what do you do when essentially the same car comes along, only in a different box?

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    Hey Guys,

    I am the new owner of the Beetle that Chris built! I ran it at Mid Ohio this past weekend, the first time it has ever turned a wheel in competition. With me in the car (193 with gear on) and a full tank of fuel, we estimate we are 130lbs under weight to make tech at the end of the race. There are a few minor changes in store for the car that will add weight, but we will still be adding ballast to make weight. The car is not nearly fully developed, as it sports a stock driveline, no diff, and I think the spring rates are off. All of that said, I had a blast this past weekend and finished every lap (which is a feat for us this year.. geez!) I plan on bringing the car to the ARRC as long as the funds hold up. We will see. I need to pick the brains of the VW guys here for help on setting up the chassis. I am now coming full circle, as I started racing 20 years ago in Vee's, and still have my AS Mustang, but I am having a blast with the ITC guys here in Cendiv.

    On a side note, I heard a rumor of an ITC Feature event possibly coming together next year at Nelson Ledges... Possibly being called "The C Cup." Lets see what happens.

    Thanks for listening to the newbie ramble... See you guys out there.

    Kristian Smith

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    Quote Originally Posted by BullFish View Post
    Hey Guys,

    I am the new owner of the Beetle that Chris built! I ran it at Mid Ohio this past weekend, the first time it has ever turned a wheel in competition. With me in the car (193 with gear on) and a full tank of fuel, we estimate we are 130lbs under weight to make tech at the end of the race. There are a few minor changes in store for the car that will add weight, but we will still be adding ballast to make weight. The car is not nearly fully developed, as it sports a stock driveline, no diff, and I think the spring rates are off. All of that said, I had a blast this past weekend and finished every lap (which is a feat for us this year.. geez!) I plan on bringing the car to the ARRC as long as the funds hold up. We will see. I need to pick the brains of the VW guys here for help on setting up the chassis. I am now coming full circle, as I started racing 20 years ago in Vee's, and still have my AS Mustang, but I am having a blast with the ITC guys here in Cendiv.

    On a side note, I heard a rumor of an ITC Feature event possibly coming together next year at Nelson Ledges... Possibly being called "The C Cup." Lets see what happens.

    Thanks for listening to the newbie ramble... See you guys out there.

    Kristian Smith

    I hope you make it to the ARRC! I want to check out that car! Glad your having fun!

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