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    Interesting video. What am I missing? It looks like Sr Ruck can't figure out who to block, he's inside trying to block the mustang and then tries to slide left to block the vw. (keeping in mind that by block I mean "squeeze", not necessarily "block illegally")

    What caught my eye was how far inside the mustang was, I was thinking, does he know where the corner goes, then I wondered why there was even room on the outside at the turn in for the vw.

    I'm trying to figure out how the vw's move is any different from the move made by the orange honda in the rear view who goes BETWEEN cars in pretty much the same place.

    I'm willing to learn, what am I missing here?

    Whoops, I missed the contact with the mustang going up the hill, that was a bad move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jumbojimbo View Post
    It looks like Sr Ruck can't figure out who to block, he's inside trying to block the mustang and then tries to slide left to block the vw. (keeping in mind that by block I mean "squeeze", not necessarily "block illegally")
    In Marty's video? My Dad's not even around a Mustang or a VW in that video. Yes, maybe sliding left in front of Tom's Honda into turn 11 could be seen as "blocking", but it's not like there was any near contact or darting moves. That's all I'm seeing, and it was probably just a manuever to pass Dan, which worked.

    And believe me, if my Dad does something dumb on track, I'm the first person to yell at him for it.
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    Sounds like an interesting weekend. Sorry we missed it (well, the ITC race anyway, they had a real barnburner going)
    On a tangent, I'm looking into new video systems for our cars. Marty, what are you using? I LOVE that front and rear view screen like that!
    Is that the Chasecam system?
    Anyone else, feel free to chime in about what you have in your car currently.
    OK, back to your regularly scheduled program...
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    I'm at work and can't see the video but what I remember is...

    In the short chute leading up the right hander to enter thunder valley.
    The red mustang is way right, maybe scared by the vw or maybe trying to get inside the orange honda I thought was RuckSr.
    The honda is middle of the road or maybe slightly right, perhaps protecting the inside line, but leaving enough room on the outside turn in point for a full car, which the vw jumps into.
    On the exit I can't see what happens but it's likely the honda drifts out and the vw comes back and maybe they bump?

    Definitely I didn't mean to imply the honda(?) was blocking, I meant protecting. But in doing so, he was way right of the ripple strips at the turn in point and there was room for a car on his outside.

    again, i seems to me the vw is doing nothing much different from the car in rear view, that car went BETWEEN cars at the same point at the turn entry.

    I'm not definding the Chopster but I guess I'd like someone to point out step by step what the vw did so wrong in the video. seems like he squeezed dan at madness, definitely hit the mustang, but besides that nothing sticks out to me as different from what everyone else is doing. dive in on 9, yeah, cars in front in back doing that too.
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    but besides that
    LOL! That was only 55 seconds of the event.
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    [QUOTE=jumbojimbo;309918]
    What caught my eye was how far inside the mustang was, I was thinking, does he know where the corner goes, then I wondered why there was even room on the outside at the turn in for the vw.
    QUOTE]

    I think you're referencing my approach to Turn 11 after the contact with the VW. The contact ripped off my sideview mirror, and, being in close quarters action, I couldn't see if anybody was to my left. I didn't want to be a d*ck like the VW and just drive brazenly...
    Last edited by RedMisted; 08-05-2010 at 02:09 PM.
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