Paddle shifters?

StephenB

StephenB

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I know that automatics are not allowed in IT and that currently we don't have cars classified with Paddle shifters however does anyone know if they have spoken about or requested? More and more newer performance cars are coming with them. Do they allow them in T1 or T2?

Stephen
 
They are allowed in those classes, but the cars that have them are not automatic transmissions. They are manual transmissions that have electronically-controlled clutches and shifters.

It is a reasonable question to ask about WHY automatic transmissions are not allowed ... if it is because the removal of a clutch pedal gives an unfair advantage, then maybe these sorts of transmissions should be disallowed as well. But for now, they are allowed.
 
I think it's just tradition.... sports cars don't have autos, and when created, nobody would dream of a sports car you don't shift yourself! (I still think that)
 
StephenB said:
currently we don't have cars classified with Paddle shifters
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Not so fast...

I believe SMG was optional on the Z4. And SMG is a manual per the GCR. So paddle shifters are already legal in ITR. That transmission was also optional on the 2003 E46 BMW's, but that year isn't on the spec lines yet.
 
GKR_17 said:
Not so fast...

I believe SMG was optional on the Z4. And SMG is a manual per the GCR. So paddle shifters are already legal in ITR. That transmission was also optional on the 2003 E46 BMW's, but that year isn't on the spec lines yet.
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That transmission was not available on the Z4 variant that's listed in ITR.
 
Andy Bettencourt said:
I bet the Ferarri that won T1 had set up like that.
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I watched the world Rally race from Finland or Norway last night. Sebastian Loeb beat all the Norse drivers in his Citroen. They have in car video of a lot of drivers. They could really use paddle shifters(like in F1). Their hands are so busy on the wheel that paddle shifters would really come in handy.
 
BruceG said:
I watched the world Rally race from Finland or Norway last night. Sebastian Loeb beat all the Norse drivers in his Citroen. They have in car video of a lot of drivers. They could really use paddle shifters(like in F1). Their hands are so busy on the wheel that paddle shifters would really come in handy.
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I watched the same broadcast. They already have paddle shifters in almost all the cars. The big lever you see in the center is a manual handbrake.
 
GKR_17 said:
Are you sure?

I see two 2003, and two 2004 2.5 liter Z4's with SMG listed for sale on autotrader right now.
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I just confirmed it, I was wrong, you are right. I thought they were only available with the 3.0.

It was a fairly lousy implementation, not as good as the M3, but you're right, it was available and would (IMHO) be legal in ITR.
 
Spinnetti said:
I think it's just tradition.... sports cars don't have autos, and when created, nobody would dream of a sports car you don't shift yourself! ...
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That's consistent with my perception from the olden days of IT but I can't tell you for sure where it came from.

K
 
StephenB said:
I know that automatics are not allowed in IT and that currently we don't have cars classified with Paddle shifters however does anyone know if they have spoken about or requested? More and more newer performance cars are coming with them. Do they allow them in T1 or T2?

Stephen
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Oh God, please no....Do we need to classify "dumb cars" so that any uncoordinated idiot can drive a race car and maybe cause a dangerous situation on track???
There are enough racers out there that shouldn't be racing, and chances are if you are a racer yourself, you know of one or two of them...
Let's not further dilute the talent pool!
 
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Josh,

The Audi TT... old ITB Coupe to the new ITR coupe :)
Same car I mentioned on the AWD link just didn't post the type of car. 2004 and 2005 is the same car and has the specs with a DSG tranny. Not sure what the MK2 specs are but I think one of the last few years they made a 6 speed...

Stephen
 
StephenB said:
I didn't realize that most professional race cars are "dumb cars"
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I doubt there are any pro drivers alive that earned their place at the top of the sport by apprenticing in cars other than those of the old-fashioned stick-and-clutch variety.
 
Chris... seriously? I think that this may be true for the US and our roundy round culture like Nascar but I bet any F1, ALMS, WRC, ect, ect, ect, ect, drivers have not driven a racecar with a third pedal in a several years! I think paddle shifters have proven to be faster and more reliable in most of those high level racing series.

If you are talking about a normal everyday automatic then we are on the same page, personally I think you loose lots of car control with your regular old fashioned Automatic 3 speed!

Stephen
 
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