LRP NARRC Runoffs

[hondaman321]

Okay Doc, I understand your explanation, however it is still not legal according to the rules, and if it is a 2.5, I could determine that in about 30 seconds looking at it which I will do in jersey. It is kind of strange since the Vin# i believe for your car is a 328, which means it had a 328 engine when you purchased the car. I am pretty sure I know where that car came from. So again I may be wrong, and I dont really care about your car. The entire point was Dave's car is too fast and I know for a fact he had non legal parts. So you should not defend someone when you dont have all the facts. He may not have those parts anymore, but like I said his car was very slow after his old motor blew up and now fast again,he claims no change. Thats all, lets go with that.

[Doc Bro]

Okay Doc, I understand your explanation, however it is still not legal according to the rules, and if it is a 2.5, I could determine that in about 30 seconds looking at it which I will do in jersey. It is kind of strange since the Vin# i believe for your car is a 328, which means it had a 328 engine when you purchased the car. I am pretty sure I know where that car came from. So again I may be wrong, and I dont really care about your car. The entire point was Dave's car is too fast and I know for a fact he had non legal parts. So you should not defend someone when you dont have all the facts. He may not have those parts anymore, but like I said his car was very slow after his old motor blew up and now fast again,he claims no change. Thats all, lets go with that.

As I said Hondaman I'll change the logbook declaration this weekend to the 2.5 and drop the weight; the car will be legal to the letter of the law.....a real big deal right?? I don't think so.


But you stated the key sentence only a little off;

"You should not ACCUSE someone when you don't have all the facts." You've accused me and Dave and Dan.....interesting no one else though, especially when there are KNOWN illegal ITR cars floating around (not speculation...KNOWN)........I think that's disrespectful and in poor taste. Be a man, stop accusing, build a car, open your wallet and shut your mouth......see what goes into it....step up to the plate. Guys like you give the SCCA and club racing a black eye. I'm done.


R

[hondaman321]

Hey docbro,
I dont really know you, however from what i have heard and when I have seen you at the track you are a great guy. I do not mean to come down harsh on you. I really do not care about you car like I said. you are a stand up guy and your car is fast, handles well, and you drive well. I had no issues with you. Because I know for a fact(100%) details of the other car we spoke of, that is why I brought it up. Just trying to make racing fair for everyone and when one person cheats then it just gets worse and worse. Look at down south several years ago, thats how this whole thing got started with ITR, because of all the cheating down there.

[Doc Bro]

Hey docbro,
I dont really know you, however from what i have heard and when I have seen you at the track you are a great guy. I do not mean to come down harsh on you. I really do not care about you car like I said. you are a stand up guy and your car is fast, handles well, and you drive well. I had no issues with you. Because I know for a fact(100%) details of the other car we spoke of, that is why I brought it up. Just trying to make racing fair for everyone and when one person cheats then it just gets worse and worse. Look at down south several years ago, thats how this whole thing got started with ITR, because of all the cheating down there.

Just when I was thinking we couldn't agree on anything!!

I agree with you cheating is bad for the club. That's why I got rid of my Z....We had it maxed out, the only way to go faster was to spend huge bucks and/or start skirting the line.....my values would not allow me to do that. I make a living based on trust and integrity.....I don't compromise that in any aspect of my life. If I've got a beef I'll state it, if I don't I won't, but I also won't disrespect myself by slinging mud and I don't think you should either.....it's just unprofessional.

R

[maynard]

"hondaman" if you have issue with my red car please come to shop and you can take the head off but you got to put it back together again and i promise you will not find anything. My car was down power last limerock event was do to a bad coil, but i still managed to run a 100.8 in the race. I dont like being called a cheater. I put a lot of effort into the setup before that race to do what that car was able to do mainly taking spring rates that worked on my koni car and trying them on the red car and it worked. Why would i put money into that car when my other car is what i am focused on. If you would like to buy the car it is for sale and if not stop accusing people of cheating when you never even met the person your accusing...if its was a dry race it would have been a battle its just to bad it rained because i wanted to try and go faster...
thanks

[Andy Bettencourt]

"Hey, that car can't possibly be THAT fast! He must be cheating!"

[gran racing]

That's right, didn't Andy almost break the one minute mark in an A car?

[dj10]

"Hey, that car can't possibly be THAT fast! He must be cheating!"

[StephF]

As I said Hondaman I'll change the logbook declaration this weekend to the 2.5 and drop the weight; the car will be legal to the letter of the law.....a real big deal right?? I don't think so.


But you stated the key sentence only a little off;

"You should not ACCUSE someone when you don't have all the facts." You've accused me and Dave and Dan.....interesting no one else though, especially when there are KNOWN illegal ITR cars floating around (not speculation...KNOWN)........I think that's disrespectful and in poor taste. Be a man, stop accusing, build a car, open your wallet and shut your mouth......see what goes into it....step up to the plate. Guys like you give the SCCA and club racing a black eye. I'm done.


R

What he said.

If you think they are illegal, file a protest.
Write up exactly what you perceive to be wrong with each car.
You will get your money back IF you are correct.
Internet dickery won't do diddly for keeping things legal and fair on track.