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    You'll get different answers from different people (at different points in history), if you ask them about the degree to which SportsCar is an organ of the SCCA. Frankly, there's enough "strategic ambiguity" there to allow either folks to bend the answer whatever way fits their policy intentions.

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    I read the SportsCar article.

    I read the autoraceautox thread.

    I also wrote a letter several months/a year ago when the "Editor asshat" wrote a SportsCar article specifying how to disable the ignition switch when the rule stated that one SHALL remove the ignition switch. Editor asshat got his undies all wound up & printed a cut version of one of my e-mail memos to him in SportsCar. Same magazine, same article writers, same not whole deal with no data, same crap.

    ***Asshats*** < I like that a lot.

    Several days before receving the latest SportsCar I resent some H&N restraint data to my BoD member. He also received & responded to my H&N letter which was sent months back to the BoD. My BoD member responded stating that HE is in ageement that the SFI devices are not the only choice. HE spent MANY years driving a FV.

    How about EACH of you ask your BoD member where they stand on the H&N restraint issue (SFI).

    Oh crap I almost forgot there was someone identified in the autoraceautox thread as Mr. Ozment. Mr. Ozment is a Terry & Terry is not a guy. She is the SCCA VP of Club Racing.

    Because the safety data directed my purchase I own an Isaac.
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    My areas's BoD member stated to me just this past Friday that, given the feedback that was solicited, the general feeling amongst the BoD is to recommend use of some sort of H&N equipment (not specific type, model, or trade group), but not to mandate it unless the insurance carrier makes it a pre-requisite for coverage.

    But away from the reliance on SFI for H&N specs and now fire system specs, I find it troubling that SCCA is offering a "Club Racing SFI Tech Inspector Exam" and a "Shop Talk SFI Solo Exam" at the Nat'l Convention next week for a whole host of reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    But away from the reliance on SFI for H&N specs and now fire system specs, I find it troubling that SCCA is offering a "Club Racing SFI Tech Inspector Exam" and a "Shop Talk SFI Solo Exam" at the Nat'l Convention next week for a whole host of reasons.
    Set the Way-back Machine, Sherman. There has been a "Club Racing SFI Tech Inspector Exam" program in place for a bunch of years. I took it for grins at a NEDiv Roundtable or MiniCon 4-5 years ago. Little did I know that I'd been given a ride on a black helicopter. Wonder if they used one of those "alien probes" on me ?

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    I've sent yet another "against mandated NHR" email to the BoD, copying my NEW area director. For those that have sent them before, remember that we have some new BoD directors that were not around during the last round of member comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnRW View Post
    Set the Way-back Machine, Sherman...Wonder if they used one of those "alien probes" on me ?
    Sounds like a fractured fairy tale to me.

    And the question remains, "Why?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    My areas's BoD member stated to me just this past Friday that, given the feedback that was solicited, the general feeling amongst the BoD is to recommend use of some sort of H&N equipment (not specific type, model, or trade group), but not to mandate it unless the insurance carrier makes it a pre-requisite for coverage.
    When the insurance carriers are made aware that SFI excludes superior designs they fall back on, "We just want no injuries," and find RSI certification completely acceptable.

    If a mandate is put in place it should be for any product (there are no bad ones), or ones that meet FIA, RSI or SFI specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gsbaker View Post
    When the insurance carriers are made aware that SFI excludes superior designs they fall back on, "We just want no injuries," and find RSI certification completely acceptable.

    If a mandate is put in place it should be for any product (there are no bad ones), or ones that meet FIA, RSI or SFI specs.
    Greg.....Why was the Isaac not included in the recent SCCA article?
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    Bruce, reread starting at post 152, and use the link. The writer and editor weigh in.....
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    Thanks for the info, Jake.

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