MiDiv Schedule

[Turkflyer]

I'll see if I can attach the tentative schedule I saw.

[SLUF]

Is this the one you saw over in the other thread? Nothing official has been published that I can find. I think this was Matt taking notes in a meeting somewhere.

3-14/15 MEM N/N
3-28/29 STL R/IT/N
4-4/5 Hallett R/IT/N
4- 18/19 MAM ssR
5- 2/3 ??? N/N forgot to write down where
5- 30/31 MAM R/IT/N
7- 4/5 HAL ???
7- 18/19 MEM R/R
8-1/2 STL ??

[Turkflyer]

Here is what I saw:
2009 Midwest Division Schedule - Tentative Draft 11-17-08JAN3/410/1117/1824/2531/1F7/814/1521/2228/1ENational Convention100 Acre Wood-StLB2/19-21/09(Fri/Sat, 2/27-28)Las Vegas(non-SCCA Event)M7/814/15NN21/2228/29R-INAMiDiv ConventionMMP/MS (no IT) provisionalGIR/STLRKansas City (3/6-7-8)14CFR/DMVR (3/14)Daylight Svgs Time Begins 3/8A4/5R-IN11/1218/19SSR25/26HCPHMRC/AVRG MAM/ MVRG-KVRG-AVRGDrumright, OK/NEOk (4/25)R8X4/17-18-1925XGIR/StL-Hyperdrive (Wed)GIR/StL (full day)Easter - 12th M2/3NN9/1016/1723/2430/31R-INAHPT/KVRGMAM/MVRGY(no IT)13XGIR/StL (Wed)Mother's Day - 10thMemorial Day - 25th J6/713/1420/21X27/28U20-21 Location TBD/MSN10XGIR/StL (Wed)June Sprints (19-21)Father's Day - 21stJ4/5R-IN11/1218/19RR25/26UHMRC/AVRGMPH/Neb (T)L8XGIR/StL (Wed)A1/2R-IN8/915/16R-IN22/2329/30UGIR/STLMAM/MVRGG22XGIR/StL (full day)S5/6R*r12/1319/2026/27EHPT/KVRGTest Days - RA (14-21)National Runoffs - RA (22-27)P5/6ProSolo Finale - Lincoln8-11Solo Nationals - LincolnLabor Day - 7thO3/410/1117/1824/25RR31/1CGIR/STLTDaylight Svgs Time Ends 11/1N7/814/1521/2228/29OARRC (6-8)VRoad Atlanta / Atlanta RegionThanksgiving - 26thDEC5/612/1319/2026/27Events:S = Drivers SchoolN = NationalX = Performance Driving Experience (PDX)R = Regional (MidAm)I = IT TourHC = Hill ClimbR* = Bonus Regional (MidAm)E = EnduroCT = Club Trialsr = Regional (non-points)ProV = ProVeeTT = Track Trials(T) = tentativeMRRS = MIDIV Road Rally SeriesTracks:GIR - Gateway International Raceway - St Louis, MOMAM - Mid-America Motorplex - Glenwood, IAHPT - Heartland Park Topeka - Topeka, KSMMP - Memphis Motor Sports Park - Memphis, TNHMRC - Hallett Motor Racing Circuit - Hallett, OKMPH - Motorsports Park Hastings - Hastings, NENSS - Nashville Super Speedway - Nashville, TNTotal Events: S-2; R-12 (1-R*); r-1; E-0; N-10 (2-NN); I-6; X-7; HC-1; CT-0; TT-0 = 12 Weekends + 1 HC-only + 3 X-only + 4 X-Wed11/17/08 mjs (draft)

[Turkflyer]

Boy, that didn't work well. Not sure how to post an Excel spreadsheet here. Anyway, the July race you show for MEM isn't on this one. July races are Hallett on the 4th, then MPH in Nebraska 18/19th.

[FireballPhil]

Everyone,

At the time that we had schedule discussions, I had a difficult time getting the MMP schedule and what they did have conficted with other race dates on the Midiv schedule. So we tentatively set a NN date for March. I finally got a meeting with the MMP management on Wednesday before Thanksgiving. It looks like we are going to have a RR/PDX/Enduro on Memorial weekend May 23/24 and probably another RR on August 22/23(?) with probably a PDX. I have to run that through my BoD to get approved but that is what looks like for Memphis in 2009. I know that the August date will be hot but I am trying to put on more races for the regional guys and also build up a worker base. We really need help in recruiting workers for 2009.

ps. we never had a July date on the schedule so I don't know where that came from.

[tnord]

Everyone,

At the time that we had schedule discussions, I had a difficult time getting the MMP schedule and what they did have conficted with other race dates on the Midiv schedule. So we tentatively set a NN date for March. I finally got a meeting with the MMP management on Wednesday before Thanksgiving. It looks like we are going to have a RR/PDX/Enduro on Memorial weekend May 23/24 and probably another RR on August 22/23(?) with probably a PDX. I have to run that through my BoD to get approved but that is what looks like for Memphis in 2009. I know that the August date will be hot but I am trying to put on more races for the regional guys and also build up a worker base. We really need help in recruiting workers for 2009.

ps. we never had a July date on the schedule so I don't know where that came from.

Phil -

Why did you decide to go with two dates rather than one? I am very strongly in favor of the entire division reducing its schedule in order to create stronger participation at the events that are held. We have had too many dates too close together in this division for the last few years, and everyone has paid the price for it with money-losing events.

The mentality of all schedule makers needs to transition from "land grab" to cooperation, because the event date(s) chosen by the region(s) hosting the event affect EVERYONE in the whole division. The best way to help out the regional program is NOT to schedule more regional races, but to make each regional race better attended. A glorified lapping day with 2 or 3 cars per class hurts more than it helps.

[FireballPhil]

Travis,

I assume that you are referring to the 2 RR events that I listed above. If you reread my message above, you will notice that I still have to get approval from my BoD. I have not listed the above events with our Midiv Scheduler yet but will after my BoD meeting next Wednesday.

How can I build up a good worker base on 1 or 2 weekends a year? About 90% of the workers at our events come from other regions. We have only 1 chief locally. In the 3 years that I was RE, we had only 1 event when we had more than enough workers. I don't know if you have ever organized an event before but recruiting enough volunteers is difficult.