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    The H1 s2000 you are looking at should be very close to IT legal since H1 s2000's had to run with H3-H5 rule set. I think the s2000 will prove to be one of the top cars in ITR those cars always seem to go faster than the math says they should.
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    I appreciate the input. I am just finishing my second year of racing. I want more laps. I also want to be able to race at VIR more often. Since I am a Mustang driver and the SCCA classing and rules are fairly unfriendly to Mustangs, I have been racing more NASA stuff than SCCA. Since NASA Southeast does not include VIR, I don't get to run at the track I am closest to as much as I would like.

    My thinking on the S2000 is to find a more SCCA friendly race car that is allowed to run enduros without having to get special permission and then run the full schedule at VIR. BTW...my primary I would continue to race the Cobra R in NASA competition and the ARRC Enduro.

    I don't really need to win anything. Seems to me you guys are encouraging me to give the S2000 a try in ITR. So, we will see if things can get worked out.


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    I think it is one of the more attractive options in ITR, along with a number of other chassis. Will be interesting to see how it shakes out. If you like a revvy powerful motor, with good rwd handling, the S2000 looks like a good choice.
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    Is the "interesting" handling something that can be fixed or does it handle the same just at higher speeds with some good shocks/spring on it? The reason I ask is I've driven a few, kinda hard, and find they start to push pretty good and then damn near snap loose when you roll out. Fun car, would love to track one, but I'll stay in A thank you.
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    That S2000 at the 13 hour was a nice car,just built,can't remember what class it was in that weekend.It is going to be run in T3 next year owned by husband wife team and built by Racelabs someone said.Motor went boom in the middle somewhere during the race,I heard it was a junkrard motor just put in.
    I was in the the Type R that weekend and not sure who they had in the car at the times I was but I pretty much drove around it.Now this was my first time at VIR and my first laps were during my first stint so it took me about 15 laps to get up to speed.Someone said I got down into the 17's so I wasn't smoken the track up by any means.In saying that I also heard the S2000 drivers were pretty new to racing.

    I do remember coming out of oaktree and really pulling up to it out of the corner and once I passed it in 5th gear 3/4 way down the track the S2000 seemed to hang on a bit.

    Our car is full IT prep except for the motor which is stock,has a big gear and pulled about 190/134 on the dyno before the event.Not sure if thats good or bad but Honda does a pretty good job in the motor dept. in both cars.The S2000 might eek out 210-215 hp at the wheels after a little bit of prep.Our car handles fine in endurance mode but I would be a little afraid of a sprint race keeping up with a better handling car as the S2000 should be.

    I am guessing that in your region racing a S2000 is going to be a pretty good car to have,you might be a little out gunned at the ARRC from another car or two but....

    And as some of you know the S2000 is of great interest to me if T3 is still around in the future.I even have a friend who is looking at it or the RX-8 for e-prod.

    So my bet is build it for ITR and have fun.

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    Or better yet buy my spec miata and turn it into a ITA car!!!!!!And then you could kick the crap out of Travis with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by type r rocket View Post
    Or better yet buy my spec miata and turn it into a ITA car!!!!!!And then you could kick the crap out of Travis with it.
    you just love to get me all fired up don't you? talk all you want right now dave, because if you end up running in ITA next year i'll put an extra long tow strap on the back of my car so you can try and hang on as i drive by.

    your phone is ringing.

    anyway....

    like dave, i'm really intrigued by the S2000 as the next race car (but i'm 5 years away from that). i just want somebody else to try it out first so they can tell me if the thing will hold together and not chew through tires/brakes at that weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ekim952522000 View Post
    I think the s2000 will prove to be one of the top cars in ITR those cars always seem to go faster than the math says they should.
    Especially since it's already 100 lbs lighter than the math says it should be...

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    Yeah, if it would respond to an engine build like most other cars do. This one won't. 240 hp out of an 4 cyl, you really think you'll get much more out of that from building a "race" engine?
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    Nope I doubt you would gain much messing with the lower end.I think a nice IT prep to the max cyl. head work would help some.Nice shock/springs,real bushings,camber/etc. ,header and exhaust,intake,shorter rear end gear and maybe an after market ecu but once again I have been told thats pretty well set as it is.

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    There is a guy that runs an S2000 in NASA and his lap times at Road Atlanta this summer were in the low 1:40's(41-42). Thats pretty quick.


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    Not to burst anyone's bubble but isn't 1:42's a fast time for ITA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian View Post
    Not to burst anyone's bubble but isn't 1:42's a fast time for ITA?
    Top six ITA qualifiers at the ARRC this year were in the 1:42's.


    Does anyone know what the weight is of an H1 S2000? IIRC, it's quite a bit less that ITR's 3005lbs.
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    I seriously doubt that a motor that won so many awards for the most HP per CC in history is going to get much more in IT trim. We might have some future Formula 1 engineer among us--who knows? Same for the RX8 which is weighted in IT trim to get the same HP numbers as a prod motor. When you get cars classed by just power/weight the tires become a big issue on the heavier cars.

    Process weight for the S2000 is correct by todays formula.
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