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    Rick,

    You should aim for 10% to 15% of the trailer weight on the tongue.

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    less than 10% and you will die.
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    Saw a guy try considerably less than 10%, just the other day. More accurately, I saw the results... i.e. a trailer pointed mostly in the direction of travel and a pickup about 140 or 150 degrees from that, while still hooked to the trailer. Needless to say, there were some pickup and trailer pieces that were dimensionally out of spec as a result.

    This guy was pulling a single axle trailer with a 1/2 ton pickup, the trailer having been loaded with another 1/2 ton pickup. From a weight distribution standpoint, it didn't look too bad until you noticed one detail - he had the pickup loaded backwards! Didja ever notice that pickups tend to be quite heavy on the front axle? I'm willing to bet there was less than 5% tongue weight on this setup, might have even been negative.
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    so does a weight distribution hitch with 800 tounge weight soung right? 10% of 7000 is 700 or should i give it a fudge factor and order bars that are rated @ 1000. i am going from a open trailer to a closed trailer and i am not into surprises on the first journey.
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    I have about the same setup and use a 1200 point weight bar. If it is possible and does not make the truck sag too much I would go higher. Unless the truck complains I don’t think you can have too much.
    dick patullo
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    Quote Originally Posted by dickita15 View Post
    I have about the same setup and use a 1200 point weight bar. If it is possible and does not make the truck sag too much I would go higher. Unless the truck complains I don’t think you can have too much.
    Of course you can have too much. You should use load bars rated properly for the load.

    They are basically just additional rear springs. Too much spring rate and not only do you get a horrible ride, you lose some bump compliance, etc.

    EDIT: Sorry Dick, I think I misunderstood you. You meant that more tongue weight is good, and that you can then relieve that additional tongue weight with bigger load bars ... I had read it as "you can't have load bars that are too big."
    Last edited by JoshS; 04-19-2008 at 05:09 PM.
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    Load bars, in effect, take weight OFF the rear wheels. Taken to the extreme, load bars can be set up to where the rear tires have ZERO weight on them, where the weight is distributed between the trailer tires and the front wheels of the truck. Ergo, best to load them properly.

    Load bars should definitely NOT be used as a crutch for an incorrectly-loaded trailer or truck not designed for the task (i.e, insufficient truck rear load-handling capability). If you transfer too much load forward on the truck using load bars you'll get handling characteristics similar to not having enough tongue weight (ask me how I know...) - GA

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