Deisel hits 3.92 9 Time to park the truck

Greg Amy said:
Best solution would be to form a co-op and actually run it as a club for paying members. Design the structure such that you've got someone brewing full-time and club members both supply the WVO and pay a nominal fee for usage.

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And check your state laws on that one before doing it. Here in NC there is a lawsuit over a group doing this as the state figures the group owes money in the form of a fuel tax that really takes away a lot of the financial benefit of doing the work.
 
Greg Amy said:
I've done it, both as brewed biodiesel (BD) and as filtered waste vegetable oil (WVO).

Lots of work. Sure, you can save as much as ~$1.50 per gallon (more for WVO) but it's messy, smelly, and uses some nasty caustic chemicals (BD). You could never make enough for a 44-gallon tow beast - hell, you'd spend most of your time just gathering the WVO - but it would be "OK" to run in a Jetta that goes for two weeks between fills.

Best solution would be to form a co-op and actually run it as a club for paying members. Design the structure such that you've got someone brewing full-time and club members both supply the WVO and pay a nominal fee for usage.

Try it sometime, you might like it. But, trust me, you'll get tired of it once the novelty wears off... - GA
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HA, you underestimate my cheap-ness. My wife swears I squeek when I walk. :p

That said, the time to construct the apparatus and gather the oil is what's stopping me. Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, soccer, duties as DA of tech, and squeezing a race in every now and then pretty much sucks up all my free time. That and the fear of what it might do to my tow vehicle - I already have one engine rebuild in progress, I don't need another.
 
Ron Earp said:
And check your state laws on that one before doing it. Here in NC there is a lawsuit over a group doing this as the state figures the group owes money in the form of a fuel tax that really takes away a lot of the financial benefit of doing the work.
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I guess I always wondered about that too. You gotta figure big brother isn't going to let that money slip out of his fingers.

The fuel tax wouldn't bother me so much if I could get the road in front on my house paved.
 
We're gettin' close here in CT. My $3.99 place from last week was still there this AM, but this afternoon my fav/lowest place nearby went up 10c overnight to $3.85.

This is going to be a very long and painful summer...
 
$4.19/gal from the same place as above; 20c more than it was when I went to work this morning.

As this continues, the number and distance of races I'm attending this year is quickly dwindling...right now we're looking at ~$70 each round trip in diesel just to go to Lime Rock, which is 1.5 hours away, and we sleep at home. $150 in diesel to go to NHIS, 3 hrs away. IT Fest would cost ~$500 and the ARRC over $800 -- and that's with today's price...
 
Our contract price is 3.07/9 expires in July might be a good idea to force a delivery before locked in rate expires!!! When We bought house in 1965 we paid 16.7 and got 150 Gals free for becoming a customer(damn I'm old)
 
Yup, and on top of that big news this weekend was the failure of one of the major oil delivery companies in Waterbury CT. 4:30 PM Friday announced business closure and locked the doors. Affects their business plus at least 5 more that they owned.

Other companies are scrambling to pick up the slack, but they're going to have to do it with wholesale spot-priced oil. I expect this will cause economical reverberations state-/region-wide...and I don't expect them to be the last...

It's gonna be a loooong summer....
 
Greg Amy said:
Best spot price today in CT seems to be about $3.51 before taxes. My current contract - expiring in May - is at $2.529.

This just adds one more straw on the camel's back...
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Get filled before you lose that price. I filled my tanks for my 3 buildings for about 2.30+ last year. I just wrote to our state Senator about the prices. Like Bush and gas, I wonder if he even knows the price is high? Did you ever feel like you were in a vise?:( I can be thankful for what I have but feel for the lower income people. How in the hell are they going to afford to heat their homes.
If I can race at all this year, it might only be local.
 
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