Rain tires??

[Tkczecheredflag]

Joe, Joe, Joe....where were you on THIS day. Rain of biblical proportions. I only thought I'd thrown the car away once or twice of EACH lap on my way to my first legitimate (More than 10 cars ) ITA win. Dirt Stockers rule! Later (@nd picture) you can see that it dried out nicely!

By the way, if anyone know Josh Kane, I've tried getting in touch with him to buy the files/prints, but to no avail. Send him my way.

Jake - BTW - A wonderful example of what a GREAT driver can do with a RWD car in a rain race - You showed us all that the myth of FWD in the rain is just that - A myth - Although I agree FWD might be better, a driver can make up for a cars shortfalls - you da man. That was a great win in very difficult conditions - You were awesome. Unfortunately, I tossed the REX into a "jersey barrier" in T-3 (a little over confident wiith those Hossier DS), but after getting the fire extinguished I had the pleasure of watching you carry the checkered flag. I do remember the "river" coming thru T-10 pictured - that was a WHEE for sure.

As a former Dirt Dtocker Man, I happen to like the Hoosier intermediates very much - I have run them when the tracked went to dry and they were very dependable - not cheap but dependable. We've won a "C" and an "A" race with the the Hoosier intermediates and I give them a

You gotta love the rain "for sure."

[lateapex911]

Jake - BTW - A wonderful example of what a GREAT driver can do with a RWD car in a rain race - You showed us all that the myth of FWD in the rain is just that - A myth - Although I agree FWD might be better, a driver can make up for a cars shortfalls - you da man.

Tim, thanks for the props, (Unless you were being sarcastic,) but I wish I could take all the credit. As you remember, we were sitting in grid when the sky opened, and they sent us back, giving us 5 minutes to come back on rains. I was given help by the Brothers Blethen and crew, and it's very doubtful I could have unharnessed, jacked, changed, and reharnessed in time without their assistance. Thanks to them for that!

But, my real point is that there was so little time, that all you front drivers went out on a dry setup, and I think that was the undoing for you. I feel the FWD Acura, for example, which has easily 40% more torque than my RX-7 (And more hp too), requires a set of compromises to make it really work in the dry. My car has a less specialized setup, and was much more manageable

I'm sure, if you knew what the conditions were going to be like, and had the time, you could have dialed your setup appropriately, and the results would be different.

But hey, That's possibly the last win a 1st gen will ever see in a legitimate ITA class, so I'll take it.

[Tkczecheredflag]

Tim, thanks for the props, (Unless you were being sarcastic,) but I wish I could take all the credit. As you remember, we were sitting in grid when the sky opened, and they sent us back, giving us 5 minutes to come back on rains. I was given help by the Brothers Blethen and crew, and it's very doubtful I could have unharnessed, jacked, changed, and reharnessed in time without their assistance. Thanks to them for that!

But, my real point is that there was so little time, that all you front drivers went out on a dry setup, and I think that was the undoing for you. I feel the FWD Acura, for example, which has easily 40% more torque than my RX-7 (And more hp too), requires a set of compromises to make it really work in the dry. My car has a less specialized setup, and was much more manageable

I'm sure, if you knew what the conditions were going to be like, and had the time, you could have dialed your setup appropriately, and the results would be different.

But hey, That's possibly the last win a 1st gen will ever see in a legitimate ITA class, so I'll take it.

No sarcasim here - Keep in mind you have been my hero since viewing your "in car video" that Reed A. let me borrow - It was my stepping off point for my SCCA racing.

In that race we were running the ITC CRX - With Hoosier DS - Was hot to get the overall, in the "C" car - thus my demise in T-3 - too hot - Although I recall you had a the hot shoe of Brian M who took 2nd overall in his Bunny "C" car.

Truth be told - In th rain on the #11 TEG, we throw on the Hoosiers and go race - I never soften up the car - Just run what we brung.

We''ll be looking for more "black and white flags" from you in IT7 this year.

[Andy Bettencourt]

The faster I make my car in the dry, the slower it is in the wet. I would love to have a full wet set-up but it ain't ever gonna happen!

[Knestis]

Full wet set up is easy: Disconnect bars, set shocks/struts to full soft, bolt in rains.

K

[dickita15]

There is no question that Jake’s performance that day was awesome however that was a moment in time. Most of the Acura crowd that was dominating at the time, Anthony, Ritchie and Ray Lee and such, were terrified of rain. Some did not even own rain tires. After that race a number of them upped their game and learned how to race in the wet. It would be a little harder for Jake to pull off the great upset today.
Again no disrespect to Jake’s amazing drive but there is only so large a gap that can be overcome with talent.

[lateapex911]

Full wet set up is easy: Disconnect bars, set shocks/struts to full soft, bolt in rains.

K

Kirk, shhhhhhhhhhh..........
Am I gonna hafta take you out back, or start spilling some of your secrets??

[Andy Bettencourt]

Pllllease! Everyone knows those 'secrets'...my point is that my spring rates keep creeping upward - to the point where no bars and soft shocks just don't do me a lot of good in the wet stuff around here. Actually, the car is more competitive at NHIS in the wet than it is at LRP in the wet. It's always wet at Pocono!

Ideally, I would run a SM set-up in the wet and my 33% stiffer 'regular' set-up in the dry. No time to swap over.

[JLawton]

Full wet set up is easy: Disconnect bars, set shocks/struts to full soft, bolt in rains.

K

Yea, THANKS Kirk......













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[JLawton]

The faster I make my car in the dry, the slower it is in the wet. I would love to have a full wet set-up but it ain't ever gonna happen!

Um, aren't most cars like that??












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[gran racing]

We''ll be looking for more "black and white flags" from you in IT7 this year.

Are you saying we be looking for Jake to receive black flags due to his bumper being on fire and white flags for the fire crew on track driving to put it out? :cool:

[lateapex911]

We''ll be looking for more "black and white flags" from you in IT7 this year.

Are you saying we be looking for Jake to receive black flags due to his bumper being on fire and white flags for the fire crew on track driving to put it out? :cool:

Hey Gran, when was the last time I had a wheel fly off and needed to shut the event down for 20 minutes to drag MY car back? Hmmmmm????

At least when my bumper caught fire, I drove to the pits and got myself off track..

[dominojd]

Tim, thanks for the props, (Unless you were being sarcastic,

I'm sure Timmah was being sarcastic.

[lateapex911]

I'm sure Timmah was being sarcastic.

Joe, do YOU really want to mess with ME, knowing what I know? Huh?
:cool:

[dominojd]

Joe, do YOU really want to mess with ME, knowing what I know? Huh?
:cool:

Ummmmm MAYBE.