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Thread: Floor Pan... Part of Structure???

  1. #21
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    So he plans to bolt the seat bottom to the floor and the seat back to the cage. Why is this illegal and if so how can you disregard item J on page 92 of the 2007 GCR?

    I'd like to know as I too have a Kirkey that will be mounted in a similar way albeit w/o the carrage bolts. That crap's for lawn furniture and fence gates.
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    So do we all agree, that as described, the above is legal and required. Otherwise, like that Meatloaf song said "I need right now, before we go any further", can iscsirocco and I mount our seats as planned or not?

    Tom Sprecher

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    yes.
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    I think you're fine.

    I've seen ITA cars with square tubes welded to the lower drivers door bar, crossing the car, and then welded to plates that were attached/welded to the floor/semi tunnel (FWD) part of the car. The seat was then mounted to those cross bars. As the seat was properly rated, it did not need to be fastened to the roll bar.

    The builder claimed it was safer, but to my eye, the roll structure had 7th and 8th attachments, and would fail a protest. I remember seeing it at the ARRCs.

    There are some, (like this builder) who feel the rules should allow such structure. But at this point, they don't.
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    Hi Ho, lets ride away into the sunset on our legally mounted seat.

    Andy, you loose your card for a day or two because of your non clarity within your post.

    Have Fun ; )
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    I think you're fine.

    I've seen ITA cars with square tubes welded to the lower drivers door bar, crossing the car, and then welded to plates that were attached/welded to the floor/semi tunnel (FWD) part of the car. The seat was then mounted to those cross bars. As the seat was properly rated, it did not need to be fastened to the roll bar.

    The builder claimed it was safer, but to my eye, the roll structure had 7th and 8th attachments, and would fail a protest. I remember seeing it at the ARRCs.

    There are some, (like this builder) who feel the rules should allow such structure. But at this point, they don't.
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    I agree with your assesment of that particular case. This can be done just as wrong as it can be right. IMO what you described creates both additioanl attaching points, and illegal reinforcement.
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