no hes right, they can take a 9mm and keep going. its walls that it can't handle.
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And curbs... I have totaled a street car on a curb (not good) and we seem to break those tie rods, ball joints, and wheel bearings in the race cars when we "bounce off the curbs..." To bad the 80's Audi 5000 FIA rallycar stuff isn't a legal conversions for IT.

Raymond