Hey Bill, I did see that you agree with me, I was just "saluting" you and Kirk as the most frequent expounders on this type of subject. So, yes, we are in agreement that the CB needs to do some work on these questions. I was saying that the discussions seem pointless in the sense that the CB doesn't ever actually seem to address these things... BTW, are you going to be at the Labor Day Double at Summit? We haven't met, I'm in the black/yellow ITC scirocco #46... Any other IT forum people who are there stop by, it would fun to associate some faces with "handles". That's assuming that anyone can find anyone once the Summit paddock is full of 14,000 racecars...