its race

[TimM ITB]

- Tim Mullen: DNF in the new car? Wuh happened?

Greg A - I will explain when next I see you. But suffice to say, a banzai move by an ITS midpacker (I think) in the downhill put me in a "no win" situation. I ended up first on one side of the track, then on the other side of the track into the tire wall. Couldn't get it re-fired, and got to watch the rest of the race. --- just wish the ITS had waited for the straight - it would have made a lot more sense than the chance he took at the Downhill. Oh, and he continued on.

Tim M

[16v]

Originally posted by TimM ITB:
I ended up first on one side of the track, then on the other side of the track into the tire wall.

made for wild series of images, I'll tell you that! I've never seen a car on two wheels twice in that short a period of time







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Doug
NER.org
the16v.com
briansgarage.com

[ed325its]

Originally posted by grega:
So here's what I want to know:

- how in the heck did Mark Gregory pick up so much time? Nice job!
- how come Ed T. lost so much time?
- 1:04s, Ben?
- Nick, what's up? 10th place...? Traffic, accident, mind on your pending World Challenge race?
- What happened to Joe DiMinno? One of us has got to do well, man!
- ITB cars 7th and 8th overall?!?!?!? Hey, Ben, they have "ITB" written on the side; you know, where your tire marks usually go? <grin>
- Wazzup with Henderson and Sabatello? both off on Lap 13...story there?
- Who in the hell is going to beat those Auto Technic cars???
- Tim Mullen: DNF in the new car? Wuh happened?

Man, I don't go to one race, and the whole world goes to hell...
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We did miss you...

I got blocked by Sabatello for the first 3 laps as the leaders pulled away and then traffic began. Ran fast but never got a clean lap.

Mark was on a mission, he was in my mirrors the entire race.

As to the race, I was very impressed with the point-bys afforded me. Everyone was using the mirrors well. A lot is said of the entire group to have run without a full course yellow and only limited local yellows with that many cars in the race.

Sometimes the fast cars have to pass anywhere they can and can't wait for the straights because we are also racing for position.

Ed aka "Tizzy"

[ITSRX7]

Originally posted by ed325its:

Ed aka "Tizzy"

HEY! You don't get to pick your nickname!

You're "The Tiz" or "Tizzer" !!!!

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[ulfelder]

Regarding the Tizzer:

For optimal New England effect, of course, you drop the terminal "r" when pronouncing this.

Examples:

"There goes the Tizza!"

"Tizza had a pissa lap!"

"Did Mahk get new tiyas, or what? He's all ova Tizza's bumpa!"

/Steve Ulfelda
05 ITS

[Greg Amy]

You guys are too much! I'm sorry I missed such a fun-filled race; I could have done well if I kept my nose clean.

Hey, Tim, was the red Honda fading away in Doug's photo the one that you're referring to? Is this the same guy that was at NHIS?

If so, I do not want to make public comments other than to note that he was a novice in the driver's school at NHIS, and after watching him during the school and the race I meant to walk over and have a chat with him at the end of the day...I wish I had.

Email me and we can discuss in private: grega-at-pobox-dot-com

[RSTPerformance]

Well as far as the ITB cars finishing 7th and 8th.... we just ran clean and consistant! Me and Scott had a great race and went side by side in the uphill probably more times than we went single file! My fast race time was 3/4 of a second slower than qualifying because almost every lap we where side by side through at least one turn! We had a great race even though I ended up in slot #2 at the end. I think I led well over half the race but it only takes one lap to win. It was awesome to have two different types of cars that are faster at 2 different spots of the track. It was neat because we could each get along side of eachother at different spots. I guess that's what I like so much about IT.

As far as lap traffic goes... that's what ultimatly created the only passes that me and scott had with eachother. We completed only three passes on eachother and they all where a result of lap traffic in the downhill. Yes we where racing for that numero 1 position but we both wanted to race in a month without bodywork! For me I finished second because I didn't make that bonzai move in the downhill, but I also have no dents and a car I can again have fun with at the next race. It seems like more people are getting that mentality that we are here to have fun not to win at all costs! I thank everyone for that because those first two races of the year where terrible! 44 cars on track with ITB and ITS sounded like disaster but instead it turned out to be very good except for maybe tim's incident. I do have a couple of interesting things on video like an ITS BMW locking up the tires in the downhill in qualifying because at the last min he decided 3 wide was not going to work but overall I saw nothing to crazy! I think with some more practice in lap traffic I will be able to "use" them more to my advantage! I realized after watching my video that I should have lifted in the middle of west bend so me and scott both had to go very slow in the middle of that turn so we would have caught lap traffic at the exit of the downhill not in the middle of it.

Good job to everyone and I can't wait to have as much fun in the next event! And when I say everyone I mean the drivers and definetly the organizors as well. The event went very smoothly!

Stephen

[gran racing]

I used to hate being passed on the down hill, but if done right it really shouldn't be a problem.

Some of us slower cars that often get passed also have some responsibility of where and when we'll be passed. For example, if I see one of the front running ITA cars coming up behind me I may lift a little at the top of the hill to all them to pass me in the straight of the down hill (obviously depends on the situation). That way the pass is done before the apex and I don't need to lift and lose the crucial momentum my car needs on the straight.

At the same time, people shouldn't be completely taking away the apex and doing bonzi moves on the apex of the down hill. Otherwise we both cars will go off the track. The slower car can often protect their line through the apex while not slowing the faster car up much and being safe.

All of this is said so generically and really depends a lot on the case by case senerio. And yes, I've been on the passing side of the spectrum going down the hill as well (especially when running in EMRA with some of the slower run groups). The faster car needs to set up the pass correctly as well. So I guess it really lies on both drivers.

I definately agree it is not worth being stupid about anywhere on the track. The first priority is to be safe and bring the car home without too much damage...then the plastic trophy.

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Dave Gran
NER #13 ITA
'87 Honda Prelude

[jwsbmw325]

Nick was spun out from behind in Big Bend, had to wait to get back on and then charged through the field to finish where he did.
[/B][/QUOTE]

Hey Andy - Nick and I touched coming toward the 2nd apex of Big Bend, i did not spin him from behind. I'm sure have fun w/ me at NHIS if I can make it....

[ITSRX7]

Hey Andy - Nick and I touched coming toward the 2nd apex of Big Bend, i did not spin him from behind. I'm sure have fun w/ me at NHIS if I can make it....

You're right, you touched his rear bumper and he spun! We will have to give you a look-sie at the video...

Hope you can make it. You guys could make it a 1-2-3 in the points!

AB


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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[jwsbmw325]

Originally posted by ITSRX7:
[b]

You're right, you touched his rear bumper and he spun!


So Nick has front and rear video cams?? Man you guys ARE high-Tech!! However you look at it, it wasnt intemntional - I would have preferred to have a clean race with him. As for NHIS - I think it is doubtful due to family obligs, but we'll see...definately look for me at the Glen.......

[ITSRX7]

We even had a camera pointed insided your head so we knew what you were thinking before you did!!!

Seriously, we hope "the customer" can get up here. It will be a great weekend.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[This message has been edited by ITSRX7 (edited June 30, 2004).]

[16v]

Originally posted by ITSRX7:
We even had a camera pointed insided your head so we knew what you were thinking before you did!!!

we pioneered that in the C car. It was the Mushcam

[jwsbmw325]

AB - who is "the customer" ??? Have it yoo-uh way. I hit him right squay-uh in the bumpah!!! Go Sox! NO-MAAAHHH!! KNO-AAHK IT RIGHT OVAH THE TAWP A' THE MON-STAH!!!!!

[ITSRX7]

"The customer"? YOU!

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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[benspeed]

Yeah, Baby! let's git it on! NHIS is going to be a blast. Double baby! My car is healthy again!

What's the deal with no garages?

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BenSpeed
#33 ITS RX7
BigSpeed Racing
[email protected]
NNJR

[ITSRX7]

What do you mean no garages? I made my reservation already.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com

[benspeed]

Andy - it was a typo online. The garages are available and I booked next to you guys so I can spy on all that top secret Flatout stuff you guys do!

Test day is also open on Friday for $150.00

I also have a set of good Hoosiers for sale - about 6 heat cycles into them. 225/45/15 Anybody want 'em let me know and I'll bring. Looking for $450. They're last year's edition.

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BenSpeed
#33 ITS RX7
BigSpeed Racing
[email protected]
NNJR

[dominojd]

Originally posted by benspeed:

Test day is also open on Friday for $150.00

The test day is fri instead of thrus?


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Crazy Joe
#7 ITS pilot

[ITSRX7]

I think there is a half day Thursday and a full day Friday.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
ITS RX-7 & Spec Miata 1.6
New England Region R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com