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    Question How do we attract new racers?

    American Endurance Racing AER
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    NASA PT, SE30, 944 and SM Classes

    Why are they so successful despite their lack of organization and structure. What did the SCCA (and MCSCC) miss? What happened while we got so comfy?
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    American Endurance Racing AER - 180TW tires

    Champ Car Endurance Racing - 180TW tires

    24 Hours of Lemons - 190TW tires

    NASA PT, SE30, 944 and SM Classes - Significant penalty for 40TW tires/Toyo spec tires/Toyo spec Tires/Mandated Hoosier tires but the price is significantly subsidized and their contingency is good

    Why are they so successful despite their lack of organization and structure. What did the SCCA (and MCSCC) miss? What happened while we got so comfy?
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    Agree... that is part of the story isn't it. But it that it? You feel that it's a one dimensional issue? It's not about the run-what-you-brung, easy to understand rules? The bracket-racing? I agree with you on the Spec and PT tire rules completely, but do you think 944, Spec E30, and SM are only successful due to tire rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kgobey View Post
    But it that it? You feel that it's a one dimensional issue?
    Absolutely not. But I think the cost aspect - or even the impression of a cost aspect - certainly can be a significant factor.
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    Yeah that's it exactly. The notion that "I can be guaranteed a level playing field", combined with the notion that the rules are super easy for a lay-person to understand and build to and a simple formula for legitimacy in licensing are what drives them to these other series.

    We can never compete on outright track time, but we can compete on ease of use. But how... ?
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    Brand identity definitely seems to be part of the problem. The very popular classes can be (and are) described in a succinct, attractive way.

    If someone asked me to describe Improved Touring racing, I'm not confident that I can give them a short, interesting elevator speech.
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