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    I also think we need to focus on more entries not more money because bigger entries breed more entries... for example see Dave grand post...

    Long term we will continue to shrink if we don't have more "racing" and more competition.

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    ITEZ, barriers to entry (what ever it was called??) , Chump cars or Lemonds are not the answer.
    Because the costs to continue are too high!
    As Stephen said, lower entry fees will bring cars.
    We need to make a bigger deal of our events.
    Promote our, one of a kind, series NERRC.
    make racers want to attend!

    Sebring's Turkey Trot (regional) had 340+ entries @ $230.
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    I think lower entries that encourage participation are key to drawing more cars, that's why I like the multi race discount approach. I also still think that anyone that travels more than 500 miles to race in our region should get to race for free. And before we think that is all complicated I think it's easy. Whatever your home address is that you used to register with SCCA is what we use for our Google maps start and the track we are racing at is our destination. I don't think we will lose money on this at all... all we are doing is inviting people from far away to see how fun it is to race with us. And that increases our participation which increases the want to attend for the locals when we have bigger fields...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    Because the costs to continue are too high!
    As Stephen said, lower entry fees will bring cars.
    We need to make a bigger deal of our events.
    Promote our, one of a kind, series NERRC.
    make racers want to attend!

    Sebring's Turkey Trot (regional) had 340+ entries @ $230.
    What a great idea!!!!! Lower entry fees will bring more cars. Glad someone smarter than me was thinking about it.
    All posts are made by a fat old guy with a crappy old car that isnt supported by a factory anymore and therefore should not be taken seriously, EVER

    We buy our tires at WalMart 205/50-15 NT-01 $148.00 last all season and go faster as they wear out........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ner88 View Post
    As Stephen said, lower entry fees will bring cars.
    We need to make a bigger deal of our events.
    Promote our, one of a kind, series NERRC.
    make racers want to attend!

    Sebring's Turkey Trot (regional) had 340+ entries @ $230.
    We have gone from trying to get more entries to discussing a fix for something that isnt broken. Points structure isnt going to draw entries.

    Now 3 tracks south of NH might draw some guys from NY/NJ/CT Lime Rock only guys. How doi we attratct them to the series and get them excited about running with us. Like it says, more entries lower costs. Lime Rock draws cars, Palmer is going to attract some as well. Thompson is still fresh. NHMS is long in the tooth and has issues that dont need to be discussed. We know that already. BUT the road to the Championship goes through NH.

    This does not need to be a big long disertation on costs and structure. Just Ideas as simple as Challange guys in your class to a race, North VS South who knows. Call the NJRRS guys out and see if they show up. We did to the Canadians and they showed up for years. Maybe event tee shirts to draw attention to a race or series. Its going to be tough to attract a Large sponsor to do every class. BUT Maybe the NERRC SM Championship by Flatout, The NERRC IT7 Championship by it7racing.com, The NERRC F2000 Championship by Widgets INC.

    The worst any one can say is no, every no is one step closer to a yes. Try asking for a little support for your class. Promote our series and MAKE racers want to attend.

    Any Ideas??????
    All posts are made by a fat old guy with a crappy old car that isnt supported by a factory anymore and therefore should not be taken seriously, EVER

    We buy our tires at WalMart 205/50-15 NT-01 $148.00 last all season and go faster as they wear out........

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    Dan, Got your VM, Will call a little later...

    I think sometimes we can look within aka points. What if the points battle was super close in your class heading into the last race at Thompson, could you convince that buddy to show up?

    How about if you knew you could earn just enough points to make you overall champion in nerrc but you need to beat 5guys in that last race? Would you try super hard to get 5 guys to show up? Again just an idea to toss around, most people are not going after the championship and don't attend a majority of the races.

    I am working on an awesome sponser for every champion... more to come on that soon, @ the banquet... :-)

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    I agree a close points battle is a sure way to get entries. Look at IT7 last season, second and third were up for grabs and I know some showed up just to try and get the next position. Jason entered purly due to trying to bet Gregs big Dick.

    But the points system used is not the reason cars dont go to NHMS, lets leave it alone until its an issue. Lets work on attracting teams and cars to the series.

    Talk to you later
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    Have you lost ALL respect? How dare you leave out Hairy.

    Is there a general feel for how many people truly pursue the championship, versus happen to be included in the points since they happened to be at that event?
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    Everyone wants a chance to beat Greg's Big Hairy Dick.
    Jason Carroll - NER IT7 #07

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    Well we will see how many go to the banquet... maybe a few more actually care as well but I bet out of everyone that participates it's a low percentage. As with anything unless your in the position to place you tend not to care as much especially when at our level many race weekend to Weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gran racing View Post
    Have you lost ALL respect? How dare you leave out Hairy.

    Is there a general feel for how many people truly pursue the championship, versus happen to be included in the points since they happened to be at that event?
    Dave, that's a question I have asked for years at meetings. How do you measure success??

    They say the divisional championship was a success because (my numbers may be off a bit) 135 racers ran 5 or more races.
    Well, that's 2 1/2 events out of 8 events???
    Would you or should we consider that a success??
    Heck, SM didn't have a champion because no one ran the minimum events to qualify!

    I don't believe the majority of racers care to or can afford to chase traveling series today.

    Look at the NARRC results, how many racers actually chased points???

    Pro IT, great series but how many guys actually follow it????

    Why we race has gone in a different direction over the last few years, Regions, Divisions and National need to recognize this!

    Ok, I'm done!
    Jerry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano77 View Post
    Jason entered purly due to trying to [beat] Gregs big Dick.
    Jason's welcome to give that a shot any time he wants.

    Sorry, wrong forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Amy View Post
    Jason's welcome to give that a shot any time he wants.

    Sorry, wrong forum...

    see post #70
    Jason Carroll - NER IT7 #07

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