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    Either of those options would be great - with the one minor inconvenience that they are illegal.

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    The k3 ties rods are 1/4 in longer. You also need the manual Mk2 lower steering shaft, very hard to source. Most places show NLA.
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    What Kirk said.

    There is a silver ITB Golf III (maybe on the east coast now) that was running manual steering because the original builder found documentation of a couple Canadian spec cars sold in California that way. I don't know if it was converted back when it moved out of the mid-west, but when we discussed it after the fact the builder and I agreed that it was not legal, because the ITCS assumes US market cars.
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    ok let me clarify. i looked at the mk2 but as was said, some of the parts are impossible to source and there was some mounting issues as well. It is legal to convert the stock rack to a manual one by looping the rack to itself and getting rid of the resevoir and pump. The questions reverts still back to power or manual and which is better under the circumstances.

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    And to prevent the "no its not legal" comments, lets say its running in nasa or any other sanctioning body or class other than itb.

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    For road racing; I run non power for all of my Vws. Locked diffs with turbo torque steer is not an issue for any of our drivers. My steering wheel options go from 14 iin to 16in. The Mk 2-3 have a pretty good scrub radius that seems to allow welded diffs and non power.
    The A1 Rocco with welded likes the really big steering wheel. . Nonpower will work /drive fine at road racing speeds and tunr radius,IMHO
    Mike Ogren , FWDracingguide.com, 352.4288.983 ,http://www.ogren-engineering.com/

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    So if I were building a car without rules, or with rules allowing non-stock steering racks, I would run without power steering. I would experiment with a depowered rack and a manual rack to see if I was more comfortable with the quicker or slower ratio. If I were asking a question about installing a non-stock rack on a forum dedicated to IT cars, I would also expect responders to assume I was asking about an IT car (and based on your post #6 I still am assuming that). I can say that it was worth a relevant amount of HP to run without the pump on the dyno.
    Chris Schaafsma
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    thanks mike and chris. i have searched, and I'm searching some more and about to make a phone call to a steward i know but lets go back to IT legal - does it state anywhere that running the stock rack just not "powered" is not allowed? It seems that it would be as all the parts are still factory as came in the car. no/yes?

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