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    Had the chance to run Maximum Attack Motorsports' '99 Civic Si in STL at the NJMP Majors weekend, and LOVED IT.

    The car is pretty well prepped, still with a 1.6. It's 200# fat but we were in the ballpark, just a few tenths off the new class lap record set by the Flatout rotary Miata. Finished 2nd both days, with Sunday being a pretty close deal...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDEEZLPg5-w

    EDIT - attempt at the class leader starts about 22:30 in the video.

    The car was fun to drive, quick, and as troublefree as an IT car. We put some tweaks on the set-up over the course of the weekend, and added the rear wing after the first practice session, and it pretty much went where we wanted.

    I'm a fan.

    K
    Last edited by Knestis; 06-12-2014 at 01:31 PM.

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    Awesome. We need to find more power out of the 13B to compete at 2700+lbs. Not sure whats left in it.
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    That's great news. More motivation to keep plugging away at the 2000 Si. STL was what finally pushed me to keep it and move it away from SSC trim. Big fields in STL are more motivation.

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    Im curious why the ST classes dont follow IT classing a bit more. For instance, the ITS field is broke between STL and STU. However there is little chance a car meeting ITS classing would stand a chance in STU. Rich Walke's ITS RX7 turned STL car is nicely competitive on a national level, but if I wanted to do the same with my E30 BMW 325is which runs similar lap times to Rich's car, I can only run STU.

    It looked like a great class at the Sprints this weekend, but after flipping through the rules I'm more confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowmann View Post
    Im curious why the ST classes dont follow IT classing a bit more
    I'll give it to you straight: ITx classes are explicitly allowed into STL* as a way to attract entries and to bring attention to the Super Touring category. There has never been any intention to make ITx classes competitive in STL or STU, and I doubt there ever will be. ITx is simply being given a place to play; nothing more, nothing less.

    As such, no cars in ITS or ITR that exceed the basic class philosophy of STL (e.g., >2L) will be allowed into STL.

    Please review my signature. Then read it again. Now, once more please.

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    * Absent the GCR requirement for a lateral dash bar and front cage legs -- which are optional in ITx -- most ITx cars that are eligible now would be compliant under the STL/STU regs. Same goes for Spec Miata. But because of that cage requirement they had to be explicitly added in order to be able to compete in STx.

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    [Greg editorial note] Crap, I accidentally used my magical admin powers and hit edit on his post instead of quote...sorry about that! Please re-type? I'll reply with what I was able to save...[/Greg]
    Last edited by Greg Amy; 06-19-2014 at 12:32 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snowmann View Post
    Im curious why the ST classes dont follow IT classing a bit more.

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    It looked like a great class at the Sprints this weekend, but after flipping through the rules I'm more confused.
    Because it is a different category. it is Super Touring, not Super-Improved Touring.

    you can run a lighter weight in STU because you have a two valve motor, check the gcr but i think it;s around 2425# or something like that. I think a 2500# E30 325is in STU would be a great regional STU car, unless a full tilt boogie national car and driver shows up, but you typically don't see those cars come out for regionals except for a rare occasion.

    I'm very surprised more (non-miatae) ITS cars are not running at Majors and Super Tours in STU.
    Last edited by JS154; 06-24-2014 at 06:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JS154 View Post
    I'm very surprised more (non-miatae) ITS cars are not running at Majors and Super Tours in STU.
    Basic problem is that there's not a whole lotta <2L non-miatae ITS options out there...Integra GS-R, Ford Focus SVT, Honda del Sol and Civic Si...that's about it. And, IMO, they're not competitive in ITS, so they typically don't build them.

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