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    Our Championship races this year are:

    May 10 & 11
    GingerMan
    South Bend /Detroit/Western Ohio
    Double Regional
    June 28 & 29
    Grattan
    WMR
    Double Regional
    August 9 & 10
    Mid Ohio
    Cincinnati
    Double Regional
    August 30 & 31
    Mid Ohio
    Ohio Valley
    Double Regional
    October 11 & 12
    Mid Ohio
    Ohio Valley
    Double Regional
    October 18 & 19
    NeOhio
    Pittsburgh International Race Course
    Quad Regional **


    From page 3 of 6 of the 2014 rules:


    NOTE: The fact that the Great Lakes Division has two to three regional races that occur on or after three weeks prior to the Runoffs each year, points earned from those races will be included in the pathway to the Runoffs for the next year. Points earned after the Runoffs cutoff date will be accrued for the calendar year.
    Drivers can run in multiple classes, but they must meet the same race minimum criterion for each as delineated above.
    No out of Division races will count toward the GLD Championship Series.
    so the races in October count for Runoffs points in 2015 but GLD Championship in 2014 is my understanding.
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    I think you got it. That's pretty simple, eh?

    It would be simpler if we just used the current points up to the cutoff for the runoffs qualification, but the thinking probably is that it would affect entries to races after the cutoff if they don't count toward the runoffs.
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    I wonder if there are any stats on which path folks took to the runoffs. My guess is that it is the majors.
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    So, if someone ran these races all year and accumulated points, that driver would have to decide at the end of the year if he wanted to forfeit a possible "division" championship so he could attend the Runoffs? And what of the subsequent "division" winner, the guy that actually finished second in al the races? He's now suddenly the "champion" because the actual champion decided to go to Road America (to finish mid-pack)?

    I understand the point, but that's pretty wonky.

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    No. I think that conflict is now gone as I read the current rules. In the past it was sort of similar to restrictions for the arrc. Didn't that have something about runoffs drivers not being eligible?

    I think it was likely to encourage regional Participation. Certainly for IT it is not much of an issue.

    Greg do you know of any stats on which path folks took the runoffs? The majors seem to be the more direct/sure thing. Also least expensive in terms of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tom91ita View Post
    Greg do you know of any stats on which path folks took the runoffs? The majors seem to be the more direct/sure thing. Also least expensive in terms of events.
    That will require a time machine which goes forward. As this is the first year of the Majors/Divisional paths to the runoffs.

    Edit: And Greg you have it wrong. If a driver runs both majors and divisional champ events and is in first place in both, the driver wins both. There is no either or for championships.

    The either-or is that the person in 4th is the 3rd qualifier to the runoffs thru the divisional path because the 1st place driver is eligible thru majors and therefore doesn't count. But the superstud driver doesn't "decide" which path to use, major path is first so that's the one that driver will use.
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    The 2013 "paths" had both the majors "turn a wheel" participation as well as being the top 3 in the division. Top 3 as in nationals. Still not why some documents refer to regionals. I think a regional is any race that is not a major?

    http://www.scca.com/news/index.cfm?cid=51213
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