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    Default Random Track Talk Question

    Do we have a specific term for our "game plan" or a strategy for the track?
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    "OH SHIT, how the hell did THAT happen...???"

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    I call it the "Scrobomph".
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    Have some more ouzo, and 'splain yourself, Mickey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knestis View Post
    "OH SHIT, how the hell did THAT happen...???"

    K
    LOL

    Just like in business!!
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    Drive fastest laps humanly possible, so fast you absolutely MUST have set a track record.

    Return to paddock. Learn from crew and Timing sheets that you were 1.5 seconds off the pace.

    Hate self. Feel miserable. Consider taking up stamp-collecting.

    Go out for next session.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLawton View Post
    LOL

    Just like in business!!
    "No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength"- Helmuth Graf Von Moltke, Militarische Werke

    K

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    Goals:
    1. End weekend with noone hurt, including me.
    2. Don't kill the car.
    3. Have fun.
    4. Go as fast as possible.
    Overall- do not violate #1 trying to do #2, 3, or 4.

    I call it Makinshuricanrunagin.
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    I have to agree with Ed, Mickey. Not sure what you're asking?

    As Andy and I have talked many, many times about, it's what I call a "complete program" if you want to win (which is what I assume your main goal is considering your willingness to drive your car to 11/10ths........................ )

    It's not about being the fastest driver, it's not about having the fastest car. it's about doing all the little things that will give you the best opportunity to win. 10/10ths car prep, tire management, data acquisition, video, replacing parts before they break, check lists, alignments that are dead on, not "close enough", etc, etc, etc.............

    Because when the green flag drops, all plans go out the window. (as Kirk referenced in his quote)
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    1. Start getting ready 2 hrs before I have to leave for the track.
    2. Realize I'm out of time and I didn't remember to do the maintenance I dreamed up after the last race.
    3. roll car out of trailer (hope it starts!), wash the crust off from last race.
    4. check tires for rubber. enough? leave on car. not enough? leave on and toss a couple more spares in the trailer. corded? replace before leaving.
    5. Put car back in trailer.
    6. toss in replacements for all parts broken at last race, and whatever spares you might need. extra tranny, diff, pads, etc.

    7. get to track, unload car. decide you're going to get there early enough tomorrow to put car together tomorrow morning
    8. screw that idea. sleep in. get to track during worker meeting. go work corner until session before yours. run to car, air up tires, check the oil. let engine warm up while I'm changing into nomex
    9. qualify 4th
    10. go work corner.
    11. add 5 gals gas and go race. somehow finish 2nd.
    12. go work corner
    13. drink beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mossaidis View Post
    Do we have a specific term for our "game plan" or a strategy for the track?
    Hosing down the midgets....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ulfelder View Post
    Drive fastest laps humanly possible, so fast you absolutely MUST have set a track record.

    Return to paddock. Learn from crew and Timing sheets that you were 1.5 seconds off the pace.

    Hate self. Feel miserable. Consider taking up stamp-collecting.

    Go out for next session.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.
    I like this, only I'd add "Go slower, only to realize you ended up going faster"

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    Be track ready two weeks prior to the event.

    Drive to the best of my ability and try to get the most out of my car.

    Do nothing at the track other than add gas, change tires and check air pressures.

    Be conservative on the first lap...don't hit, don't be hit!

    Have FUN
    Chuck Baader
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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck baader View Post
    Be track ready two weeks prior to the event.

    Drive to the best of my ability and try to get the most out of my car.

    Do nothing at the track other than add gas, change tires and check air pressures.

    Be conservative on the first lap...don't hit, don't be hit!

    Have FUN
    If you follow the 'don't do crap between races', then I fall under the same guise of 'ready 2 weeks before the race'.
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    OK, between races:

    Clean tires, remove tires from car and put car on jack stands.

    Nut and bolt, check rotors, pads. Bleed brakes every other race.

    On BMW, valve adjustment and leak down test. Before ARRC dyno test to see if head needs to be freshened. Freshen head if necessary.

    On RX7 change fluids.

    Check corner weights depending on how car is handling.

    Check N2 charge in shocks.
    Chuck Baader
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    Wait I am doing something wrong...

    no one mentioned changing diapers or yelling at the kids! :-)

    No one mentioned bragging too your buddy how you kicked his/her but... and if you didn't how you ignored him/her doing the same to you! :-)

    Stephen

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    No metal to metal.

    If you hit (or are hit by) someone and have any body damage, the weekend is a disaster.

    Tow home safely.

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    Hope that Andy doesn't show up with his monster ITA car. LOL

    Go out, manage to get a win. Come into paddock, get reminded how much I still suck as SM cars are going two seconds faster. <_<
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    Strategery.

    Game plan on a race weekend?

    Bring monster ITA car.
    Listen to faster drivers on little points trying to grab 1/10ths, know that there is always someone better and faster so shut up and listen
    Be first to qualifying grid
    Rip off 5 of your best most focused laps then pit for tire pressure reset
    Find a hole and grab one more flying qualifier
    Verify with pits or with data that you are fast, come in
    Focus on reaction time or communication WRT green flag
    Be first to T1
    Drive away from field
    Collect $5 ash tray and wonder where your money went
    Sell car to equally fast SM driver to keep your work in the area
    Help him continue to crush the spirits of the other ITA drivers who now have Miatas
    Use money to help fund NSX purchase

    ...wait, is this more than you wanted?

    LOL Still not sure what your question was. But if you are looking for one word?

    Racecraft.
    Andy Bettencourt
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    Bastard.

    Give it a few years then come back. MAYBE I'll be ready for you then.
    Dave Gran
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