New England Region IT EZ

[dickita15]

New England Region Club Racing is adding a new class for regional racing in 2014.
2014 New England Region Rules
Improved Touring – EZ
The purpose of IT‐EZ is to create a regional class where cars built for ChumpCar or Lemons racing, or for cars that could be ITE legal but do not belong in the fast race group, to have a place to race on an SCCA Regional race weekend. As opposed to any other class of SCCA road racing, IT‐EZ competition is designed as a “fun run” class, without any promise of intent of performance equitability. IT‐EZ is designed to provide a way for drivers to earn an SCCA racing license and race in regional competition, with the absolute lowest cost vehicle. In no way will any waivers be considered or granted in areas regarding safety of vehicle or driver.
IT‐EZ vehicles may race with prior accident damage, as long as that prior damage does not create a danger to the driver of that vehicle or fellow competitors.
Non‐functional additions to vehicles, whose primary purpose is to express creativity, theme, are allowed only if do not create a potential safety hazard to the driver or fellow competitors
IT‐EZ eligible vehicles
Must be a “mass produced,” gas or diesel powered, four wheel passenger car.
Minimum weight of 1800 pounds and a maximum weight of 4000 pounds and a production‐based engine.
Tires must conform to applicable Improved Touring rules, i.e., must be DOT rated tires, and sizes must be consistent with allowable dimensions per the GCR. 190 wear‐dated tires are not mandated, but they may be used if the racer prefers.
Preparation regarding brakes, suspension, and engine must meet either Chumpcar rules or SCCA Improved Touring rules

[Ed Funk]

And what group are these rolling shit boxes going to be running in?

[pfcs]

Your rapier witted posts will be "publishers quality"

[Knestis]

Just in the interest of consistency, it might be good to look at what they are doing with the enduro rules in New Jersey to include LeChump cars. A good idea.

K

[dickita15]

Just in the interest of consistency, it might be good to look at what they are doing with the enduro rules in New Jersey to include LeChump cars. A good idea.

K

well yes someday maybe but they have too many classes (3 I think) for us right now. if this catches on and we need to set competition levels that would be a logical place to start.

[Knestis]

well yes someday maybe but they have too many classes (3 I think) for us right now. if this catches on and we need to set competition levels that would be a logical place to start.

Makes the rules process even easier:

"All entries in NER's 'IT EZ' class will conform to rules published for any one of the Jersey Racing Board's LCC1, LCC2, or LCC3 classes, as published in 'LeChump Regional Classes - Rules and Specifications' dated 9/13/13."

Soup.

I recommend that you give a hard think about what will happen when an idea like this is successful and future-proof it to the greatest extent possible right out of the gate. We know what the rules are intended to accomplish but there is absolutely nothing preventing some enterprising nutjob - like we have lots of here - from optimizing a car to a set of extremely loose rules.

Or you end up with a bunch of cars wanting to run next year, people start agitating for separate classes, but everyone has their own tweak that they want incorporated in the plan. You could just wave the wand and have three classes without upsetting anyone with changes.

Regardless, that's details. It's still a good idea.

K

[dickita15]

And what group are these rolling shit boxes going to be running in?

Wow Ed, judgmental much.


Last I heard the group was SSM,SM2, STU, STL, ITC,ITEZ but that is subject to change. We also are trying to design this class so the stewards have some discretion as to where they fit best. We started talking about a second IT catch all class because there are a few cars out there that are really not right for the normal IT classes but are too slow of ITE. This progressed into making a home for some of the crap can or lemons guys who want to try our style of racing. There are some talented drivers and some good cars in those series and I think it would be good for us to give them an opportunity to race with us.

[dtanthon]

Rules from NJRRS site. (No Animal House themes )

The purpose of these LeChump rules is to create an opportunity for cars built for ChumpCar World Series (ChumpCar) or the 24 Hours of LeMons (LeMons) to compete safely in SCCA regional races. They are intended to provide low-pressure classes without the necessity of extensive modifications to existing cars. Multiple classes are provided to foster competition, however, there is no guarantee that any specific make, model or car will be competitive.

All drivers must fully conform to SCCA driver licensing requirements. Prior LeChump racing experience may be considered for SCCA licensing but automatic license exchange is not guaranteed or contemplated. Each situation is considered on its individual merits. All driver safety gear must comply with the GCR requirements.

On my note - I attended 2 Lemons races earlier this year, at NJMP and NHMS. Quite a variety of cars and talent. But some would fit into IT without any problem.

[tom91ita]

Dick

I like the idea and LOVE the class name.

Our LeMons "shitbox" runs ITB times on street tires and could run competitive ITA times with Hoosiers. And this car started its race career as a SCCA ITC car.

Others mileage and speed would vary.

Tom

[Flyinglizard]

great scott!!
Good start Dick.

Please use 180 as the tread wear rule.
That is the standard for the SCCA PNW ITJ. , CC- lemons, the new World Racing League and many others. Keep the horse in the barn.
I would add that any tire designed to circumvent the 180 street tire "aura", will be excluded.
Lets Keep "those cars" on the slow tires, please.
The last thing I want to see is my 210Hp, 1800#,TurboJett,(shitbox) rolling on purple crack. It makes 1.5+ G on Hoes.

Pretty sure that is not what we want.
Yeah we want to be grouped in whatever group that ed is in,,
MM

[Flyinglizard]

Include the Crapcan forum and maybe the IT cars also running Prod..
The active count is way low here now, tough to get much lower. Add the new markets and see what happens.

Figure out the add price and let me know.

Thanks, MM

[Matt93SE]

Adding those forums to the existing list doesn't cost any additional money- it's about the riff-raff we'll be attracting if we do that...

[Greg Amy]

Include the Crapcan forum and maybe the IT cars also running Prod..

Aren't there already crapcan forums out there? How would adding another one be of any value? It would be like someone else adding an IT forum to theirs.

The active count is way low here now, tough to get much lower. Add the new markets and see what happens.

This is not a for-profit business; it exists solely to service the IT community. And in fact, increasing the user count is a significant DISincentive, as it would require more work for the volunteer staff...

Surely the Internet already services the CrapCan community...?

[Ron Earp]

Agreed. There are lots of crapcan forums out there. If this forum is about SCCA IT racing, and I believe that is what we all want it to be save a few, then let's stay on point. Put the NASA stuff on NASA forums, crapcan stuff on crapcan forums.

[lateapex911]

Agreed, and there are general forums for those that want to debate the virtues among a mixed group. While it would be NICE to have an active forum of lots of IT racers, I think it's more important to keep the signal to noise ratio up, and keeping the boards focus aimed at it's goals of servicing the IT community is a good way to do that.

[Flyinglizard]

So ,5 of the 20 active posters want to discourage any bleed over from any other source.
We have regions all over the country looking for more entries and inviting new racers to join SCCA.

Add the crap can forum , nobody says that you have to look at it!
pretty simple.
Call it ITEZ maybe ??
Any new trollers are good .
If google can lead new racers here than how is that a bad thing?

The new faces may take a look at their cars ,, schedules etc and consider the IT classes or prod or STL.
Any new interest should be encouraged, not shunned.

This reminds me of the original IT discussions. The prod guys went crazy about the Bondo falling off of the cars etc.

[Greg Amy]

Moved discussion to "General" and stickied.