And what group are these rolling shit boxes going to be running in?
And what group are these rolling shit boxes going to be running in?
Ed Funk
NER ITA CRX, ITB Civic, ITC CRX (wanna buy a Honda?)
Smart as a horse, hung like Einstein!
Your rapier witted posts will be "publishers quality"
phil hunt
Just in the interest of consistency, it might be good to look at what they are doing with the enduro rules in New Jersey to include LeChump cars. A good idea.
K
Makes the rules process even easier:
"All entries in NER's 'IT EZ' class will conform to rules published for any one of the Jersey Racing Board's LCC1, LCC2, or LCC3 classes, as published in 'LeChump Regional Classes - Rules and Specifications' dated 9/13/13."
Soup.
I recommend that you give a hard think about what will happen when an idea like this is successful and future-proof it to the greatest extent possible right out of the gate. We know what the rules are intended to accomplish but there is absolutely nothing preventing some enterprising nutjob - like we have lots of here - from optimizing a car to a set of extremely loose rules.
Or you end up with a bunch of cars wanting to run next year, people start agitating for separate classes, but everyone has their own tweak that they want incorporated in the plan. You could just wave the wand and have three classes without upsetting anyone with changes.
Regardless, that's details. It's still a good idea.
K
tom-.......I'm in. Lets load the trailer and doit
I agree with K but think this is great. Also think now would be the time for street tires. Why not?
Thanks for getting this going Dick and others who may have been involved.
Dave Gran
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Wow Ed, judgmental much.
Last I heard the group was SSM,SM2, STU, STL, ITC,ITEZ but that is subject to change. We also are trying to design this class so the stewards have some discretion as to where they fit best. We started talking about a second IT catch all class because there are a few cars out there that are really not right for the normal IT classes but are too slow of ITE. This progressed into making a home for some of the crap can or lemons guys who want to try our style of racing. There are some talented drivers and some good cars in those series and I think it would be good for us to give them an opportunity to race with us.
dick patullo
ner scca IT7 Rx7
Rules from NJRRS site. (No Animal House themes )
The purpose of these LeChump rules is to create an opportunity for cars built for ChumpCar World Series (ChumpCar) or the 24 Hours of LeMons (LeMons) to compete safely in SCCA regional races. They are intended to provide low-pressure classes without the necessity of extensive modifications to existing cars. Multiple classes are provided to foster competition, however, there is no guarantee that any specific make, model or car will be competitive.
All drivers must fully conform to SCCA driver licensing requirements. Prior LeChump racing experience may be considered for SCCA licensing but automatic license exchange is not guaranteed or contemplated. Each situation is considered on its individual merits. All driver safety gear must comply with the GCR requirements.
On my note - I attended 2 Lemons races earlier this year, at NJMP and NHMS. Quite a variety of cars and talent. But some would fit into IT without any problem.
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Thanks,
Darrell Anthony
Dick
I like the idea and LOVE the class name.
Our LeMons "shitbox" runs ITB times on street tires and could run competitive ITA times with Hoosiers. And this car started its race career as a SCCA ITC car.
Others mileage and speed would vary.
Tom
1985 CRX Si competed in Solo II: AS, CS, DS, GS
1986 CRX Si competed in: SCCA Solo II CSP, SCCA ITA, SCCA ITB, NASA H5
1988 CRX Si competed in ITA & STL
great scott!!
Good start Dick.
Please use 180 as the tread wear rule.
That is the standard for the SCCA PNW ITJ. , CC- lemons, the new World Racing League and many others. Keep the horse in the barn.
I would add that any tire designed to circumvent the 180 street tire "aura", will be excluded.
Lets Keep "those cars" on the slow tires, please.
The last thing I want to see is my 210Hp, 1800#,TurboJett,(shitbox) rolling on purple crack. It makes 1.5+ G on Hoes.
Pretty sure that is not what we want.
Yeah we want to be grouped in whatever group that ed is in,,
MM
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Mike Ogren , FWDracingguide.com, 352.4288.983 ,http://www.ogren-engineering.com/
Instead of IT-EZ on the door, we could install TP dispensers in the side of the door.....
I want to take our LeMons car to one of these events just to run faster than some of the others "regular" cars.
1985 CRX Si competed in Solo II: AS, CS, DS, GS
1986 CRX Si competed in: SCCA Solo II CSP, SCCA ITA, SCCA ITB, NASA H5
1988 CRX Si competed in ITA & STL
gennus.. A few wraps around my open main hoop..
Mike Ogren , FWDracingguide.com, 352.4288.983 ,http://www.ogren-engineering.com/
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