December 2013 Fastrack

[Matt93SE]

* And if NASCAR actually ran tub cars from their manufacturers? I'd start watching that s**t again, even the ovals...

They call that V8 Supercars.

[Greg Amy]

They call that V8 Supercars.

Amen! Some of the best racing worldwide, along with BTCC and WTCC.

All tub cars.

[joeg]

BTCC/ Aussie V-8 (s) --Perhaps not really tub cars any longer--more like hybrid tubs with a spec tubular front end from the firewall forward.

Brazilian stock cars used weird looking tube frames.

[Greg Amy]

BTCC/ Aussie V-8 (s) --Perhaps not really tub cars any longer--more like hybrid tubs with a spec tubular front end from the firewall forward.

True. That's how we evolved into GT tube cars: allow me to "cage" my car to any point for safety, then we did it to the suspension and drivetrain mounts, and allow me to cut out the sheet metal in between and to "replace" all panels with plastic to reduce weight...so tell me again why I need to start with a production tub...?

Brazilian stock cars are nuts, more like DTM cars.