December 2013 Fastrack

[quadzjr]

Did this note just make IT a legal national class that will allow you to qualify for the runoffs?

Production
1. #12279 (Philip Royle) Allow IT cars to run in Production in IT trim
Thank you for your letter. Add 9.1.5.B5.: 5. Any Improved Touring car meeting all the requirements of ITCS 9.1.3 may compete in the Production class in which the same make, model and engine displacement car is classified. For Improved Touring cars competing in Production, the level of preparation and modifications will be as determined by ITCS 9.1.3 and not by PCS 9.1.5. This is intended to allow Improved Touring competitors to become more familiar with Production to assist them in determining whether to modify their cars to meet the requirements of PCS 9.1.5 and also to permit Improved Touring competitors to compete in all events open to Production cars.

[Greg Amy]

Did this note just make IT a legal national class that will allow you to qualify for the runoffs?

A great move, IMO.

Of course, almost everybody with a 2L 4-cyl was able to do the same thing in STL for the last two years...now everyone else (well, those that have a corresponding car in Prod) can go to The Show.

- GA

[quadzjr]

the classificaton of the B18C5. Not quite sure why the 1" porting note has to be there. Is that not the rule for all STL builds?

Also why more weight for the RWD? didn't a FWD qualify 3 and 4 at the runoffs?

Good to see my request got through.

[Greg Amy]

the classificaton of the B18C5. Not quite sure why the 1" porting note has to be there. Is that not the rule for all STL builds?

Early (1997) Type R B18C5s were hand-ported from the factory. Subsequent B18C5s were subject to a CNC clearance process (something that typically may be part of a good IT/STL-level engine build anyway). The CRB would not approve (and I would not have supported) the engine if we allowed the factory porting in, since it would not be able to be scrutineered (what part was done by eunich ex-Ninja Shinto monks, and what was done by the competitor?)

That note is an exclamation/clarification that the ported B18C5 engine will not pass scrutiny in STL. Any porting work, factory or otherwise, is prohibited. If you've got a hand-ported '97, you'll need to either get one that is not ported and/or start with a replacement casting (e.g., B16A/A2/A3 head).

- Greg

[Ron Earp]

ITS
1. #11724 (Willie Phee) Classify Acura TSX in ITS
The CRB requests member feedback for this question. Please submit letters to crbscca.com. Should the 04-08 Acura TSX remain as currently classified in ITR at 2760 lbs or be moved to ITS at a weight of 3175 lbs?


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Bring it on into ITS with 205 stock hp @ 3175 lbs and some 15" wheels. Hoosier guys will love it.

[Chip42]

tGA - stupid (maybe?) question:

STL now has weight penalties (understandably) for certain engines, RWD/AWD, etc... are these applied successively, or are they summed before applying the cumulative % penalty over the chart?
e.g. the B18C5 has a 2% penalty. if RWD this would be chart *1.055*1.02 (1.0761)or *1.075?

at 1800cc this is 2430 chart, 2615 as successive, 2612 as summed.

I recognize it's 3lbs in this instance, but that's enough to get bounced at impound.

[JS154]

tGA - stupid (maybe?) question:

STL now has weight penalties (understandably) for certain engines, RWD/AWD, etc... are these applied successively, or are they summed before applying the cumulative % penalty over the chart?
e.g. the B18C5 has a 2% penalty. if RWD this would be chart *1.055*1.02 (1.0761)or *1.075?

at 1800cc this is 2430 chart, 2615 as successive, 2612 as summed.

I recognize it's 3lbs in this instance, but that's enough to get bounced at impound.

I believe any adjustments are each done as a percentage of base weight, then all added to the base weight.

[Chip42]

Good to see my request got through.

now where the hell are we going to find one of those?

[quadzjr]

now where the hell are we going to find one of those?

I believe one is on a kart sitting right between two racecars at the moment.