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    Ok this leads me to my next question.

    2. Rotors -
    Any 1- or 2-piece ferrous rotors that do not exceed 290mm
    in diameter and 28mm in thickness are permitted.

    3. Calipers - Any 4-piston or fewer calipers may be used.

    So if we can run any 4 piston caliper and ferrous rotors up to 290x28 which is most certainly bigger than what most of the car in this class come stock with. And you can't go with OEM (not same model) knuckles/hubs to get the bigger brakes to fit OE.

    Are we then allowed to run adapter brackets that come with every big brake kit on the market to get the caliper in the proper position.




    I still think the EG and DC2 are the same, you can mix and match parts between them like legos.

    Wait so the integra type R is legal as long as you don't use it's engine...

    This is the coolest class in scca, but damn is it confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0100 View Post
    Are we then allowed to run [brake] adapter brackets...
    Sure, as long as you don't modify any parts on the car to install them. They're part of your alternate brake design.

    This is the coolest class in scca, but damn is it confusing.
    Concur. We're doing what we can, when we can, to clarify it.

    - GA

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    Cool thanks Greg!

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    I think your safest option for meeting GCR STL rules here to build yourself a 94 Civic EX/Si with ABS. It will still be 4 lug, but you will have a larger front knuckle (which BTW is the same as any non-Type R DC models), larger bearings, larger rotors/calipers (upgrade from 9.3" to 10.2") or get the Wilwood upgrade kit (11" or ~12.2") which needs the larger knuckle from the ABS model, larger brake booster and larger master cylinder. As tGA says, the Si/EX models came with disc rears, so that is an easier conversion.
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    PS. There are bolt-on calipers from Wilwood now for the Si/EX models with ABS knuckles. Look up Forged DPHA.

    http://www.wilwood.com/BrakeKits/Bra...back+SI&whl=15
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    So if you have a cx could you swap in si/ex knuckles and brake booster and master cylinders since they are both civics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0100 View Post
    So if you have a cx could you swap in si/ex knuckles and brake booster and master cylinders since they are both civics?
    IMO, if they are the same chassis designation (such as DA, DC, EF, EG, etc) then I suggest you're safe. If anything outside of that then you're on your own. - GA

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0100 View Post
    So if you have a cx could you swap in si/ex knuckles and brake booster and master cylinders since they are both civics?
    That would be VERY SAFE decision, since in fact, you are not building a new model, just making an existing one. Other than the sunroof brackets and VIN, take a CX put the Si/EX rear suspesion, the Si/EX ABS front suspension and brake system, less motor and you have a Si/EX with ABS roller. Boom!

    Now mind you, tGA is stating his opinion about mindlessly swapping parts from a DC to EG chassis. Only a protest or a technical clarification request would put that decision to rest. I do know that an EG Civic is NOT as wide as DC2 Integra even though the suspension are similar.

    PS. Though, I am also known to be a "little" anal sometimes. Plus tGA is on the STAC... cough.
    Last edited by mossaidis; 10-21-2013 at 12:51 PM.
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