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    Looked great coming past me. Unfortunately, I had nothing to help me get up to the real battles, but instead just had to battle to stay out of the way.

    Not to steer away from the OP, but did anyone's logbook get zapped by the neat-and-clean fairies? I heard there was a protest stemming from the arbitrary and capricious nature of the enforcement. Any word on the outcome?
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    They tried on our's... We wouldn't let them near it! Had a heart to heart with Nesbitt... Told him to clean up the series of contact and you won't have this problem! His basic response was chicken/egg and that this is one step toward doing that. We promised to clean it up by next year.

    They don't care how good the paint is (I'd just waxed our's), a show paint job over dents won't cut it. I felt that they were reasonable with their expectations. but may have gone about it a bit gruffly.

    They won't not let anyone race, but have a strong interest to clean things up... hopefully they do on all fronts and the clean up is a one time cost for everyone.
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    My issue was *how* it was done, AND the fact that the MARRS series and DC Region (club racing programs at least) seem to think they can dictate policy over a wider area than their own. If you don't want my crinkled rear quarter, then be clear about it and I'll refrain from entering. However, when they place a notation in my logbook, thereby forcing the next Scrutineer to continue *their choice of preferred rules enforcement*, they've exceeded their place by a few orders of magnitude.

    My Monday entry was pulled (not only for this reason, but this was the wagonload of straw bales that broke the camel's back) in protest. I do have to say that the DC Region folks I spoke to (including the Event Chair and RE) were very attentive, and I'm hoping my concerns will be addressed. If not, there are other places to race.
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    I agree. Hence the fact that we wouldn't let them anywhere near our log book!

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelbyRacer View Post
    My issue was *how* it was done, AND the fact that the MARRS series and DC Region (club racing programs at least) seem to think they can dictate policy over a wider area than their own. If you don't want my crinkled rear quarter, then be clear about it and I'll refrain from entering. However, when they place a notation in my logbook, thereby forcing the next Scrutineer to enforce the policy, they've exceeded their place by a few orders of magnitude.

    My Monday entry was pulled (not only for this reason, but this was the wagonload of straw bales that broke the camel's back) in protest. I do have to say that the DC Region folks I spoke to (including the Event Chair and RE) were very attentive, and I'm hoping my concerns will be addressed. If not, there are other places to race.
    Chris Rallo "the kid"
    -- "wrenching and racing" -- "will race for food!" -- "Onward and Upward"

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    Thank you. looked like you had some good racing at times regardless of where in the pack it was. My guy had to start at the back and work his way up...


    There is a 100 post thread on the "other" IT site... I've not read it all.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShelbyRacer View Post
    Looked great coming past me. Unfortunately, I had nothing to help me get up to the real battles, but instead just had to battle to stay out of the way.

    Not to steer away from the OP, but did anyone's logbook get zapped by the neat-and-clean fairies? I heard there was a protest stemming from the arbitrary and capricious nature of the enforcement. Any word on the outcome?
    Chris Rallo "the kid"
    -- "wrenching and racing" -- "will race for food!" -- "Onward and Upward"

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    When they brought up the issue at the drivers' meeting I thought out loud, "there go most of the 2002s!" Much to my surprise, only one or 2 were cited. I even teased one of them on the way out about how he managed to escape the scrutineers. He just smiled and mumbled something appropriate.
    Honestly, it's a lot of work with a couple guys (who will go nameless) to avoid contact. I get chopped off in T1 and T3 on a regular basis by the same guys! Heck, I like my fenders to be straight, ya know? Maybe they know that!
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