September 2013 Fastrack

[Matt93SE]

good to hear the Secret Car Club is alive and well. we've been without a good smoke filled room story here for a while.

You want that, go talk to the Prod and GT guys right now that are ready for the Runoffs town hall meeting with torches and pitchforks. There's a LOT of pissed off people about the BS they're pulling with GTL..

[Chip42]

You want that, go talk to the Prod and GT guys right now that are ready for the Runoffs town hall meeting with torches and pitchforks. There's a LOT of pissed off people about the BS they're pulling with GTL..

I haven't been paying attention to that side, what's up (short version)?

[Z3_GoCar]

Basically, consolodate GTL into GT3, FP, and HP. Part of the consolodation involves slowing GT3 by 3sec per lap.

[Knestis]

Why would GTL get any kind of extraordinary effort...?



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[Flyinglizard]

GTL is kinda like B Spec. Maybe 25 cars in the entire country. GTL and Bspec are the most cost and the slowest class. Trying to get any power thru the SIR is a constant PITA . Very time /$ consuming.

Pretty sure that you could run a GTA/TA2 car for the same money. But we have some oldtimers that have spent the money for the micro GT cars and dont like the future picture. Tough sell any direction taken IMHO.

[Matt93SE]

You have to compound that story with the history of the situation.. GT4 + GT5 were 'consolidated' into GTL about 4-5 years ago. In order to try to create parity, the fast cars were slowed down, and the slow cars were... slowed down.
Throw in a tanking ecomony and many of these cars were parked due to the huge cost of re-engineering an engine to run with an SIR. It's not as easy as sticking a different size restrictor on and dyno-tuning the thing. Changing the SIR size involves compression changes, head & port design changes, new cam profiles, etc etc etc.

Anyway, long story longer.. GTL is still 'recovering' from the GT4/GT5+ economy hit, and now they find out the entire class is going away?

Compound that with tube frame ex-GTL cars now being run in FP and HP, AND slowing down GT3 (which had nothing to do with this mess), and the board has now messed with 4 classes instead of just one. All of this in the name of fewer number of classes, which doesn't change squat other than the runoffs schedule.

[Knestis]

In the name of not pissing off a few, we piss off the many.

All we need to do is revoke the national class status of any class that comes up short of the minimum participation requirements. The rest will fall naturally into place based on market forces, like, "Dear SCCA, please allow me to race my [whatever] in GT3 with a bigger engine..."

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