The Turbo problem in STU

[Rabbit07]

K, I am with you brother. Cars such as the Miata, Solstice, Lotus really have no place in touring car racing. I noticed this when I first became aware of the class. I even had mentioned it to rules makers, but was dismissed. No surprise to me that cars such as this have an advantage regardless of them being boosted or not.

[Greg Amy]

Amen.

[Dano77]

I was always told a Tourng Car needed to have a back seat. These cars you speak of have no back seat. Certain exceptions have been made in the past, like the RX7 with the GI Joe sized rear seats.

Th Lotus and Miata punch a VERY small hole in the air. An Intgra or Jetta a Very Large hole.

Just sayin...

[Andy Bettencourt]

Observations:

• If it's really a Touring class then the 2 seaters need to go - but its not and never was
• Every single 'T' class in the SCCA has 2 seaters. STO, STU and STL. 4 seats was never part of the concept, 'Touring' was just a name when envisioning a place for ex-WCTC to land in SCCA amateur racing and giving other cars a chance to be built to those specs. It's right in the Purpose statement in the GCR
• Solo breaks their 'Street Touring' up every which way from Sunday - in a way I can't quite figure out but for sure RWD/FWD and 2 seats and 4+
• Using wet conditions for a 'look' at results is a tough call
• Forced induction is a freaking NIGHTMARE to get right. Even in Pro racing they can't get it right the first few years. It takes a mandatory $12K dollar Bosch ECU now so they can monitor every single output to get close

It's a great set of classes and STL is still ramping up. I really enjoyed seeing more FWD cars out there because of the creativity you can apply when building them. I still wish you could use any year chassis and modern powerplants. Maybe even total Frankenstein cars like an ITS-chassis 924/944 with a K20.


I thought about picking up a GA-spec ST RX-8, tune it a bit and do some Nationals but then realized Laguna was next. I think the cars with the best blend of power and handling with be the cars to beat until it hits Daytona...


Good stuff.

[JS154]

Observations:

• If it's really a Touring class then the 2 seaters need to go - but its not and never was
• Every single 'T' class in the SCCA has 2 seaters. STO, STU and STL. 4 seats was never part of the concept, 'Touring' was just a name when envisioning a place for ex-WCTC to land in SCCA amateur racing and giving other cars a chance to be built to those specs. It's right in the Purpose statement in the GCR
• Solo breaks their 'Street Touring' up every which way from Sunday - in a way I can't quite figure out but for sure RWD/FWD and 2 seats and 4+
• Using wet conditions for a 'look' at results is a tough call
• Forced induction is a freaking NIGHTMARE to get right. Even in Pro racing they can't get it right the first few years. It takes a mandatory $12K dollar Bosch ECU now so they can monitor every single output to get close

It's a great set of classes and STL is still ramping up. I really enjoyed seeing more FWD cars out there because of the creativity you can apply when building them. I still wish you could use any year chassis and modern powerplants. Maybe even total Frankenstein cars like an ITS-chassis 924/944 with a K20.


I thought about picking up a GA-spec ST RX-8, tune it a bit and do some Nationals but then realized Laguna was next. I think the cars with the best blend of power and handling with be the cars to beat until it hits Daytona...


Good stuff.

It's not a Touring class - it has nothing to do with Street Touring. It really is Super Touring - wI doubt anyone is going to pick a bone over a rear seat or 2+2er or no rear seat when we need cars and entries. Aside from all that what it really comes down to is it is an engine class.

[Andy Bettencourt]

It's not a Touring class - it has nothing to do with Street Touring. It really is Super Touring - wI doubt anyone is going to pick a bone over a rear seat or 2+2er or no rear seat when we need cars and entries. Aside from all that what it really comes down to is it is an engine class.

Correct, but people are getting hung up on the 'Touring' part of then name...when that was all it was at the time of conception - just a name, not a concept.

[Knestis]

...except that if it is an "engine" class - which it is - any given drivetrain option is going to be more competitive in a 2-seat platform than it will in a 4-seat platform. That kind of makes it a "chassis" class.

Anyone doing a purpose-built STU car today would be wise to keep that in mind.

K

PS - Congratulations again on your successes this year, Eric. It was nice having you and Irish Mike as yardsticks at the Majors we ran with the TDI.